Twinkie Confession

[okietool]

So S4F... Are you telling me that if your employer was going to cut your pay to LESS than you would make on unemployment you would keep that job?

It's my understanding (with absoluetly no hard evidence) Hostess wanted wage and benefit concessions equaling 8%. If they are working for 8% over unemployment, they would probably be better off unemployed. The they can join in internet discussions like this.
Or their unemployment insurance is a heck of a lot better than Oklahoma's.

 

[dennishoddy]

Can't remember ever eating a twinky. Never have been much for sweets, even as a kid.

 

[okiebryan]

It's my understanding (with absoluetly no hard evidence) Hostess wanted wage and benefit concessions equaling 8%. If they are working for 8% over unemployment, they would probably be better off unemployed. The they can join in internet discussions like this.
Or their unemployment insurance is a heck of a lot better than Oklahoma's.

From what I've read their average hourly wage was 11.25/hr. At 40 hours, that's $450 a week. An 8% cut means $10/35/hr or $414 per week.
Max unemployment pays $420 a week, and frees up your time to look for another job, although they may not qualify for max unemployment. You can only squeeze the help so hard before they decide it's not worth it anymore...

 

[okietool]

I'll miss the little chocolate donuts. I call them my wax donuts. They just seem waterproof.

THOSE WERE DONUTS???????????????
I thought those were some kind of defective hockey pucks. I broke my mom's rear windsheild in a 1962 Chevy II with one.

 

[okietool]

Doesn't Hostess make Snowballs too?

 

[okietool]

From what I've read their average hourly wage was 11.25/hr. At 40 hours, that's $450 a week. An 8% cut means $10/35/hr or $414 per week.
Max unemployment pays $420 a week, and frees up your time to look for another job, although they may not qualify for max unemployment. You can only squeeze the help so hard before they decide it's not worth it anymore...

I think the wage & benefit concessions may be the key. If they can't work for $10.35 / hr. wage how could anyone possbly work for minimum wage. And the unemplyment insurance isn't supposed to be permanent. It's insurance contibuted to by you (through your employer at a level decided by the state) it has a termination point (supposedly).

 

[okietool]

I'm not a business-insurance-union expert, but I play one on the internet.
I do know there are certain conditions that allow employers to contest unemployment benefits, I have had to attend those hearings (not by choice) and I never liked it.
I think if we want to go any further down this road, someone needs to start a Union vs Hostess thread.

 

[HMFIC]

From what I've read their average hourly wage was 11.25/hr. At 40 hours, that's $450 a week. An 8% cut means $10/35/hr or $414 per week.
Max unemployment pays $420 a week, and frees up your time to look for another job, although they may not qualify for max unemployment. You can only squeeze the help so hard before they decide it's not worth it anymore...

They were going to get back 4% of the pay next year and then more later... I can't remember all the details.

Besides that, unemployment doesn't come anywhere near the maximum payout for that wage level so they'd be getting much less AND no benefits at all.

I'd have taken the cut and still been employed right now. Didn't Obummer say we all have to cut back a little???

 

[HMFIC]

Pics or it didn't happen.

Sorry brother, this is all that's left... mmm they were tasty.

 

[okietool]

May be the Chinese will start making Twinkies.