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Why should .0006% affect everyone elses life?

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Any truth to this stat chart?

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Until people take this scourge seriously and wear masks to protect others, (masks offer protection to others) this virus will resurge and create and even larger problem that it has already caused. In my opinion, in many areas restrictions have been lifted too early as evidenced by the resurgence of higher numbers of the virus.
 

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Until people take this scourge seriously and wear masks to protect others, (masks offer protection to others) this virus will resurge and create and even larger problem that it has already caused. In my opinion, in many areas restrictions have been lifted too early as evidenced by the resurgence of higher numbers of the virus.

What's the trend of hospitalizations in Oklahoma?
 

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It can be argued that looking at current local data on the number of sick and dead is like looking in the rear-view mirror.
We are blessed not to have people riding subways and busses. I think this may have helped us tremendously.- in addition to the lockdown.
But I see no reason to assume that we are safe reopening Thunder games and similar events.
 

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In my opinion, in many areas restrictions have been lifted too early as evidenced by the resurgence of higher numbers of the virus.

Higher numbers of the positive tests is not by itself indicative of a resurgence or new outbreak...especially while testing efforts are increasing.

Hospitalizations last week went down to 190, from 215 the week prior and 228 the week before that. That shows a decline, modest yes, but it is more relevant than the numbers of positive tests.
 

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Looking at the harm suffered in other places, I'd say the balance of the evidence points to the shutdown having been beneficial in reducing direct harm from the disease. It can be argued that the economic harm outweighed the health benefit.

I found this author's conclusions for reopening worth considering:
When you put all of these stories, studies, blueprints, and advice together, it amounts to a relatively straightforward pandemic playbook. For memory’s sake, let’s reduce the major takeaways to a convenient acronym: SAFE.

- Social distancing: This one you probably knew before you read this article. Keep a healthy distance between yourself and others—six feet is a good general rule—especially when you are near them for an extended period of time.

- Airflow awareness: Every noncontact activity—talking, eating, working out—becomes significantly safer when you take it outside. As the previously mentioned Japanese study and Hong Kong survey indicated, the odds of transmission in a closed, indoor space are several orders of magnitude higher than in open-air environments.

- Face masks: Wear them. They’re not just for you; they’re for everybody around you.

- Expectoration (sorry for using a fancy word for spit to make the acronym work): COVID-19 appears to spread both through large-droplet transmission, such as from sneezes, and through the airborne transmission of smaller, aerosolized droplets, such as those that spray out of the mouths of talkers. Beware especially of indoor environments and activities that naturally include lots of gabbing (such as a long office meeting), singing (such as a choir practice), shouting (such as a high-school gym), or heavy breathing (such as an intense indoor workout class).
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/how-will-we-ever-be-safe-inside/611953/
 

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Until people take this scourge seriously and wear masks to protect others, (masks offer protection to others) this virus will resurge and create and even larger problem that it has already caused. In my opinion, in many areas restrictions have been lifted too early as evidenced by the resurgence of higher numbers of the virus.

And if we don't reopen then it won't matter who is safe, our entire economic system will collapse. Right now we are damn close to it as it is. Banks are holding on by a thread, and we haven't even seen the start of the default flood that is coming. The US is at or very close to the max amount they can borrow, so throwing more and more money at this is gonna be a moot point soon. Unless the economy gets going, this ship is gonna sink.
 

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It really is easy to condemn the officials for the various measures they have imposed. But when you have experts in the field of infectious disease telling us we need to "lock-down", and many people actually in support of it, whattya do? I'm fairly certain many measures were taken in good faith; with good intentions...we find ourselves in a unique situation with this Covid-19 virus. And yes, as @tRidiot says above, there's no way to really tell what effect this has had. I'm just hoping we are able to stem this back some so life can return to some semblance of normalcy.
We were not in a unique position. Many pandemics over the years to learn from but one thing that has never happened in history with any outbreak is a quarantine of the healthy. Always been quarantine those with symptoms or possible exposure. This was all a farce.
 

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As previously stated, it will be hard to determine how effective the lock downs were without a time machine and a do-over.
No its not, simply compare other counties action and numbers as this man did. Look at Sweden and Norway, 2 different approaches and the one who locked down (Sweden) had the same outcome as Norway - which simply used SD and other precautions with no lockdown. Or maybe I have the 2 mixed up but the bottom line is same.
 

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