Biden’s ‘Infrastructure’ Bill Contains Backdoor ‘Kill Switch’ For Cars

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Anything hyperbolic can and will evolve. That's where most of this stuff begins. Hyperbole can just be testing the waters so to speak.. Dismiss nothing that can be extrapolated from it.

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I’m not dismissing the possibility or the technology. Im questioning the politically motivated article and people blindly agreeing with it. Happens all the time on here.
 

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Yes. Exceedingly hyperbolic
There is some truth in there though. There are already traffic cams that issue you tickets for running red lights. Many politicians openly discuss doing away with the gas tax and charging by mile for road use since so many EVs are on the road and not paying the gas tax so revenues are dropping. They just haven't figure out a way to track it yet. The GPS in your vehicle already logs your location and travel so retrieving that info is just another technological barrier to overcome.
 

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There is some truth in there though. There are already traffic cams that issue you tickets for running red lights. Many politicians openly discuss doing away with the gas tax and charging by mile for road use since so many EVs are on the road and not paying the gas tax so revenues are dropping. They just haven't figure out a way to track it yet. The GPS in your vehicle already logs your location and travel so retrieving that info is just another technological barrier to overcome.
See post #31
 

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I’m not dismissing the possibility or the technology. Im questioning the politically motivated article and people blindly agreeing with it. Happens all the time on here.
All one needs to do is look at previous technological advances and see how they can be perverted such as skimmers on gas pumps derived from card readers. As for people blindly agreeing with that article, how do you know the "followers" haven't given the scenario some thought? You stated that you wouldn't dismiss the possibility. I would imagine you gave that comment some thought. Ergo, you must agree with those agreeing that the article must have some validity.

First, look at what motivates politics.

Woody
 

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to my knowledge, there are exactly ZERO new cars being made in the year 2023 without this technology already on the car.

ANYTHING that has an ECU that controls steering, your throttle body, and/or your brakes is "hackable", "kill switch", "remote shutdown" whatever you want to call it.

ANY. VEHICLE.

i'll told you this before, you can debate back and forth about the validity of this all you want; it's ALREADY happened and the as usual the governments likes to ask for permission WELL after the fact.

like i've said many, many times. an early OBDII car that has "modern" electronic features but yet still has a butterfly valve on a throttle body connected to a pedal, still has a steering wheel that is linked to the steering rack, that still has hydraulic brakes that work by pressurized fluid, that car is going to be worth HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

THEY ARE TELLING YOU TO GET RID OF THEM; CASH 4 CLUNKERS, I HEAR EVERY DAY "DONATE YOUR OLD CAR TO NPR!!!" F'ING NPR WHAT THE F DOES NPR F'ING WANT WITH ***YOUR*** CAR, TAX PURPOSES?!?!? LOOOOOOOOL

THEY
WANT
YOU
TO
HAVE
NO
FREEDOM
OF
TRAVEL

EVERYTHING
IS
ABOUT
TOTAL
AND
COMPLETE
DOMINATION

YOU
CANNOT
CREATE
A
TECHNO
DYSTOPIA
IF
PEOPLE
CAN
TURN
LEFT
THEMSELVES
OR
TELL
THEIR
CAR
TO
STOP
 

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All one needs to do is look at previous technological advances and see how they can be perverted such as skimmers on gas pumps derived from card readers. As for people blindly agreeing with that article, how do you know the "followers" haven't given the scenario some thought? You stated that you wouldn't dismiss the possibility. I would imagine you gave that comment some thought. Ergo, you must agree with those agreeing that the article must have some validity.

First, look at what motivates politics.

Woody
It might have some validity to generally support the woke corrupt govt claim because the technology exists, & I believe the govt will abuse it. But does the legislation actually include a kill switch, as the article claims? That’s my point & I don’t know because I didn’t read the bill. I did find another article with the opposing view. So we can research to form opinions.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-402773429497
However, history on this forum shows people will blindly believe partisan political stories with hyperbolic headlines, and even call for killing people based solely on one story. So, Im skeptical of these types of stories from either side of the political spectrum.They usually include a grain of truth, but with an exaggerated thesis.
 
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I think it's a good idea. It's going to allow police to "kill" the car of a suspect, so if it makes them just a little safer, I'm all for it. Just think of how this will stop the high-speed chases that get so many people killed.
Careful here. Okie4570 will claim you've spent too much time in "Cali" with this way of thinking.
 
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