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many thanks for clearing up a few things about above post from Tulsa World. note those were not my comments but what someone posted in what appeared to be a concise manner.

it was cleverly written to bias someone like myself who had next to zero knowledge of the Gumm case before it was mentioned in this thread.

goes to show you ... one cannot believe anything without checking it out first.

1 and 2 are opinion but I happen to agree.

I believe 3,4, and 5 are true.

I believe 6 and 7 to be false.

8 is definitely true.

9 is pure conjecture by someone who is probably unqualified to make such an assessment.

10 and 11 are definitely false and 11 is easily disproven.

12 is also true but in my opinion more indicative of bad judgement than malice.

13 is again opinion but I think it is accurate. However the poster wants readers to believe that Gumm's lawyers worked for the NRA. The reality is they were part of the NRA's legal defense plan.

14 is blatantly false.

15 and 16 are laughable and not worth addressing.

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This toothless cheese dick could get shot by someone in that PT Cruiser and no one would be charged. The attacker used a weapon. He staged the weapon to facilitate the assault. The victim attempted to get away. The attack continued. Very clear that there was eminent danger and succinct fear for one’s life. Should it go to trial, they would play the video (with closed caption subtitles for those that don’t speak Ebonics) and show that the attacker intended to do grievous bodily harm.

Now with that being said, it would have been more fun to watch the victims use a half gallon of some pepper spray, a Taser hooked up to the car battery OR even better yet, light him up like a Buddhist monk with some napalm. Along with ridding society of said cheese dick, this would be without any doubt the best show on the Vegas strip and would help with tourism.
 

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After replaying it several times, I am still trying to figure out what he is saying. Sure, there are a few "choice" words that are discernable, but the rest to me is just babble.

However, I do agree that the "person" in the video would be eligible for some "one on one" time with the barrel end of my Sig!!
 

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"eligible for some "one on one" time with the barrel end of my Sig!!

My thoughts exactly. Well said. Sad thing is that even if carrying, drawing in a car is difficult at best.

I think an older women could have shot him from the car and been a-ok claiming self defense..especially after this asshats blood test...crazy, hopped up, with a tire iron..looks like the ingredients of a good shoot. Too bad it doesn't happen more often.
 

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Sure wish I'd had Barbara Billingsley here to help me understand what the guy was saying.

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i am thinking the way speed my mind works. and how i have taken my job home with the way i am always looking around for someone to come at me, the first smash to the windshield once he passed to the driver side, with whatever he had in his hand, i would reasonably feared that i was going to sustain serious bodily injury or death. and released fire when he crossed the front driver quarter panel. the sad thing is how packed the intersection is. there was no driving away from him if he was serious (which would have been the only initial thought). and how dangerous it would be to let off shots in that matter, dangerous in the form of odds of a miss or a penetration shot hitting someone else in the intersection. i guess it really just comes down to the outcome. but i feel had the driver had a gun they would have been justified in defending themselves in that instant.
running him over was one suggestion that everyone seems to come up with, but looking at it again i think by the time the usual driver focusing on the light herd the first hit and realized what happened, by the time they feared for their life that he was actually coming for them, was one he had already passed from infront of the vehicle and smashed the drivers side window.
i think arguably in court had action been taken and the crazy man survived but been injured, running him over after a smash to the passenger side of the car, would have been more difficult to defend as just than opening fire once he was at the drivers door in closer range to do physical damage and harm to the driver. but of course i am not a lawyer.
 

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