A judge can say the 4th Amendment is null and void?
A judge can say the 4th Amendment is null and void?
So let me see if I have this correct. The residents of Watertown were under immediate threat, which necessitated pointing lethal weapons in their faces by the police? How exactly did that (not to mention conducting pat downs on them without RS or PC) make them "safer"?
You voted for change didn't you?
LOL... I kid... I kid. No sense in a personal offensive remark like that.
I just don't get your train of thought at all. As said above, How does a judge overpower the 4th?
What part of this isn't OK to you (since you acknowledged that a lawsuit may be prudent)?
Will you argue that those people (atleast some) weren't forced out of their homes at gunpoint?
Will you then argue that this doesn't mean they had no choice?
Doesn't that mean then, that something had to be wrong? Think about it. With all the definitions of this incident's terms above, where do you not see that probable cause is needed for an individual's rights to be suspended? And if you have no arguments so far.... then where was the probable cause for each individual (since this is after all about an individual's rights)?
They were dead wrong here just as they were in the katrina incident.
We aren't busting in mud huts looking for persons of interest here, but that's where we are headed if this crap is allowed.
So a known violent murderer, with a confirmed disregard for life (proven in the wild chase and shoot out) eludes immediate capture in the neighborhood of which they chose to flee to... It's unreasonable to think the suspect is occupying one of the houses? Completely unreasonable? Really?
No but they might be able to grant a broad type search warrant if a tip is called in. You did notice that it was the same house shown in both videos and that no other houses were shown being searched like that.
So let me see if I have this correct. The residents of Watertown were under immediate threat, which necessitated pointing lethal weapons in their faces by the police? How exactly did that (not to mention conducting pat downs on them without RS or PC) make them "safer"?
Oh gee, you mean the part were they were treated just like it was a hostage situation? I am sure you have all seen video of them securing each person until they are sure they are not one of the bad guys. What do they do, they keep them covered and give them a quick pat down before sending them off to a safe area. JUST LIKE IN THE VIDEOS!!!!
Did you notice that the women were not patted down and that there were not even any female officers? Why? Because the suspect being looked for was a male.
The only thing you missed was how many tips were called in that the police had to check out. The cops probably got hundreds.
No problem. Just remind me though, how many of them were in fact hostages? How many of them were at the scene of an active shooter? How many of them were in ANY danger BEFORE a loaded gun was stuck in their face by a LEO? See, I'm trying to wrap my mind around how people who were secure in their homes were in more danger, but were suddenly in less danger with a loaded gun pointed at them as they were extracted from their homes under threat of force? So far, you haven't helped me with that equation. Not...one...bit.
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Hindsight always being 20/20... What if this turrible unjustification of these fourth amendment rights, this wanted loser was found in the third house... What would the reaction be?
No problem. Just remind me though, how many of them were in fact hostages? How many of them were at the scene of an active shooter? How many of them were in ANY danger BEFORE a loaded gun was stuck in their face by a LEO? See, I'm trying to wrap my mind around how people who were secure in their homes were in more danger, but were suddenly in less danger with a loaded gun pointed at them as they were extracted from their homes under threat of force? So far, you haven't helped me with that equation. Not...one...bit.
I am not sure you can wrap your mind around it because you seem to be avoiding looking at anything but the worst. Do you know if someone called in a tip or if there was maybe a reason the cops thought he might be in there? Do you know if every house was searched like that or was it only selected houses? If so how where they selected? By tips maybe? If there was a tip, should the cops have ignored it?
And I am not sure there is any help for you.
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