Anyone register a pistol brace?

[SoonerP226]

OK, so if the Federal courts slapped down ATF rules on Bump-stocks, then why isn't the market flooded with them? Why aren't gun accessory manufacturers pumping them out to the retailer? Obviously being slapped down by Federal court(s) didn't do a damn thing, did it, so the rules still apparently stand!

Federal Court decisions are only binding on their districts (it can be used as precedent in other districts, but those courts don't have to follow the ruling). If it goes up on appeal, it can become binding across the states in that circuit, but it won't become binding across the nation until the SCOTUS rules on it.

Right now, even if the rulings prohibited the ATF from enforcing the bump stock ban nationwide, that's not sufficient for a business to run the risk of producing bump stocks--this is still early in the process and those rulings could be overturned on appeal, leaving them way up the proverbial creek if they had started up production. They may also not be located within the jurisdiction of the courts that made the rulings, so the ban could still be in force where they are.

There are also pesky things like patents and trademarks that could prevent the market from being flooded.

 

[BobbyV]

OK, so if the Federal courts slapped down ATF rules on Bump-stocks, then why isn't the market flooded with them? Why aren't gun accessory manufacturers pumping them out to the retailer? Obviously being slapped down by Federal court(s) didn't do a damn thing, did it, so the rules still apparently stand!
As far as the public playing 'fast and loose with vague rules' like the .gov, or the affluent, or the privileged, or the 'connected', or the celebrity? We both know how that works.

It's not flooded, but they're supposedly out there for sale again . . .

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/bump-stocks-for-sale-again-in-texas-louisiana-and-mississippi/

 

[BobbyV]

And there isn't a lot we can do if others will judge gun owners based on this type of idiot with a gun.

 

[Chuckie]

I honestly believe the government is scared of its ppl. They can or have made these rules, yet they have never came or tried to take the what they outlawed. Many states, L.E.O have also vowed to not enforce it. They understand what mass compliance means. If they TRY to come and take them, they know they WILL have a war on their hands. They know this.

The whole 'they're going to confiscate our firearms' thing is nothing more than a myth and everyone with even a touch of common-sense knows it because, if for no other reason, it would be a logistically impossible task. Yet that myth keeps being rolled-out time and time again for no other reason than to demonize some members of of our government or Democrats, in general.
Virtually EVERY government is "scared of its ppl" because virtually every government knows that they sit in their 'seats of power' only because it's the people that put them there and it's the people that can take them away. Revolutions are not won by guns, but by the sheer will of the people willing to face those guns.

 

[jakeman]

The whole 'they're going to confiscate our firearms' thing is nothing more than a myth and everyone with even a touch of common-sense knows it because, if for no other reason, it would be a logistically impossible task. Yet that myth keeps being rolled-out time and time again for no other reason than to demonize some members of of our government or Democrats, in general.
Virtually EVERY government is "scared of its ppl" because virtually every government knows that they sit in their 'seats of power' only because it's the people that put them there and it's the people that can take them away. Revolutions are not won by guns, but by the sheer will of the people willing to face those guns.

According to a guy I knew from Australia, that’s what they thought too. Never happen. Until it did.

 

[Chuckie]

And there isn't a lot we can do if others will judge gun owners based on this type of idiot with a gun.

Actually there is a lot that we in the gun community can do to reduce this type of thing. Instead of constantly moaning, writing letters, sending emails, or calling our representatives about how badly .gov treats poor little innocent us, we need instead to push our representatives to DEMAND that these idiots (also part of the gun community) be prosecuted for their idiocy.
I'm not talking about the [ho-hum] typical 'to the fullest extent of the law' BS that we hear time and time again. I'm talking about forcing into law, laws that prohibit monetizing these acts (no YouTube money, no book deals, no movie rights, etc.), no publicity (no after-action interview, no videos allowed, no Podcasts/VLOGs, etc.), a total demonizing of the individual(s) involved, guaranteed execution (within one year) for any connected deaths - NO exception, no plea-bargaining, no probation, no house arrest, nada!
Play stupid games . . . lose everything (including your life in some circumstances), period, no exceptions.
Granted it won't stop all of it, but when it becomes clear to these idiots that there is no 'fame or glory' but only unabridged hatred against them for their gun-related stupidity, it may at least reduce some of it. For those that do want to go out in a 'blaze of glory' then so be it, make their wish come true as quickly as possible.

 

[BobbyV]

Actually there is a lot that we in the gun community can do to reduce this type of thing.

I'm not referring to stopping the stupidity. I was referring to how others judge us based on those committing the stupidity.

 

[BillM]

I haven't, but I don't own one. So far, I can hold a firearm to shoot it, so don't see the need. OTH, I'm also a GOA member, and have been rattling the cages of my congresscritters about this stuff. What part of "SHALL NOT INFRINGE" is so freaking hard to understand?

 

[Chuckie]

According to a guy I knew from Australia, that’s what they thought too. Never happen. Until it did.

Again, most of that 'the government confiscated all our guns' is BS. Laws were passed mandating that handgun owners had to obtain a handgun license or turn-in their handguns (for pay). Unlike the United States there is no constitutional right in Australia to own firearms, but just as in the United States though, most people can and many do still possess guns, still go hunting, and still enjoy shooting sports (using long-guns).
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g255055-Activities-c56-t210-Australia.htmlhttps://www.gunworld.com.au/pistol-ranges/
I would bet that if most guns had been confiscated by the Australian government, as your 'friend' said, there would not be any gun ranges, pistol clubs, or gun stores still in operation.

 

[Chuckie]

I'm not referring to stopping the stupidity. I was referring to how others judge us based on those committing the stupidity.

The 'whole' will always be judged by the actions of a few, that's how human society works. The only thing that the 'whole' can do is to try and weed-out the few that cause the most problems for everyone else.