Obama "warns" unelected SCOTUS about overturning ACA.

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Although I'm not a big Obama fan but when you consider the overall condition of the country I'm thinking there's been some poor judgments before he came along.

Obama turned what would have been a more extreme but cyclical business cycle into the most extreme recession the US has ever seen. His fiscal policies are directly responsible for the current economic situation. He is in the middle of his campaign promise to fundamentally change the United States. Although he didn't elaborate how he wanted to change it, from his actions and not his words you can see he wants a socialist society where government is the primary provider and he is the dictator.
 

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I wonder how many times "I pledge to uphold and defend the Constitution" repeated over and over will fit on three pages single spaced with space for signatures at the bottom. I think this would meet the Thursday requirement.
 

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Although I'm not a big Obama fan but when you consider the overall condition of the country I'm thinking there's been some poor judgments before he came along.
So that's your reason for supporting more poor judgement?
DPI summed it up exactly.
 

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The president worries the Supreme Court might overturn a law passed by Congress. The Founders were quite comfortable with the idea.


...every act of a delegated authority, contrary to the tenor of the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. . . . Alexander Hamiliton

...Eventually the Supreme Court itself, in the case known as Marbury v. Madison, spelled out the logic of judicial review. We've always felt it was important to note that the Court's authority does not stem from the Court's own assertion of its own powers. It is deeper down, in the writings of the Founders themselves, and part of the American bedrock. It exists at the Federal level and in the constitutions of the states. The idea of separated powers was first put down in plain language in our laws in the constitution of Massachusetts, which noted that the aim was to have a government of laws rather than of men.

It is a mark of our cynical age that Mr. Obama would challenge these assumptions. One can attribute the error of judgment to the fear that once the Court gets its back up and decides to hold the Congress to the powers that are enumerated in the Constitution, it's not just Obamacare that is in danger but the whole regime of runaway power in Washington.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303816504577321522844781222.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read

A great history lesson, here. It's a pity that our local Obama supporters are not willing to learn.
 
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So that's your reason for supporting more poor judgement?
DPI summed it up exactly.

Because I think well of Colin Powell I'm supporting poor judgment? By the way he's not sure he's supporting Obama this year.

[Former Secretary of State Colin Powell, who endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president in 2008 despite serving three Republican presidents, said Sunday that Obama needs to change his approach in the White House because voters are feeling overwhelmed by sweeping new laws that expand the scope of government.]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42381.html

As for the economy who was it that cashed in on the real estate bubble that busted taking 7 trillion out of American's household wealth? What about the profiteering from gutting jobs in companies destroying jobs and pilfering pension funds to make a buck? What about the Fannie Freddie scandal? did that just start when Obama took office? What about the derivatives bundling and massive frauds in the banking industry? We know who was involved in the savings and loan scandal years ago that hurt many American's right?
As I've said I'm not an Obama fan but I also know that whether it's greed for power among some on the left or greed for money among some on the right or vice versa neither side left/right, Repub/Dem can claim innocence. And it's the common people who loose and those in power on both sides that win.
 

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Powell has always been a politician, even when he was in uniform. Pay attention to his words. "Obama needs to change his approach" is not the same as "Obama needs to change his goal, objective, or desired outcome." and "The President also has to shift the way in which he is doing things" is nowhere near the same as saying "What the President is doing is wrong.".

I appreciate Powell's service to our country in the Army but he will never get my vote.
 

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Powell has always been a politician, even when he was in uniform. Pay attention to his words. "Obama needs to change his approach" is not the same as "Obama needs to change his goal, objective, or desired outcome." and "The President also has to shift the way in which he is doing things" is nowhere near the same as saying "What the President is doing is wrong.".

I appreciate Powell's service to our country in the Army but he will never get my vote.

Powell's name was offered as an "imaginary alternative" to the present choices because most think Paul is too crazy and Ventura might be too "extreme".
Romney may say Obama is "doing wrong" while he's running against him but what will he do while in office?
The issue Powell has with Obama is unemployment and the "sweeping new laws that expand the scope of government", don't really see much real talk about those issues do we?
 

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Again...careful wording. Powell doesn't have a problem with the "sweeping new laws that expand the scope of government"...he just has a problem with how fast it is happening and worried about selling it to the American people. That is entirely different from disagreeing with the laws themselves. He openly supports Obama's healthcare reform, even though he admits some changes could be made.

Powell seems to want to have his cake and eat it too...hang out and enjoy being a minority Republican AND curry favor with the White House.
 

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Romney supports Romney care, is that different since it's state run rather than fed?
"Sweeping new laws that expand the scope of government", patriot act? Only one candidate has spoke to shrinking gov. and curtailing it's powers and that's Paul and he's "crazy".
Some would contend because of the situation the country's in there are going to have to be changes, the question is whose changes, and will they be negotiated with the people, sold to them, or crammed down their throats?
 

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