so you take issue with them exerting concessions through a strike? How do you feel about things like the 40 hour work week, paid overtime and weekends?
Western Heights teachers’ pay docked for participating in walkout
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so you take issue with them exerting concessions through a strike? How do you feel about things like the 40 hour work week, paid overtime and weekends?
What do you offer that should've been done in it's place?
Yes, I do. School employees aren't aloud to strike in Oklahoma. They broke the law. How would you feel about the military, police and fire dept striking?
There's an election coming up. Vote out incumbents who do the kabuki dick dance
Dont go into teaching when the state you live pays ****
Move to another state that pays better.
This isn't anything that hasn't been said before. So here comes the tap dancing some of you will do.
The strike proved nothing except that you can willfully break the law if you have a large enough group
So your options are...
Vote Democrat
Don't follow your dreams. (yes a lot of teachers love their job)
Move to another state. (even if your friends and family are here)
Some excellent solutions to improving the education system in Oklahoma I tells ya lol.
Right, just pointing out the mentality that got us here in the first place.
It is my understanding that the walkouts weren't illegal, around here anyways, because the school boards voted to shut down. It's illegal to strike against the board but not against the state legislature? Or am I wrong? @Dave70968?
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Labor law isn't my thing, and the distinction between a "strike" and a "walkout" is a subtle one that exceeds my knowledge. I can tell you that demonstrating against the legislature isn't a "strike" unless you're actually an employee of the legislature (staffer, etc.); strikes are against an employer. I think strikes also involve a union, which technically doesn't exist for teachers--the various education associations are political advocacy groups, similar to a trade group, not a union with collective bargaining rights. But, again, I'm outside my wheelhouse here, so anybody who is more familiar with the subject than I am is invited and encouraged to step up and correct me.
As to a solution not involving "the disgruntled breaking the law," that's a dangerous road to go down; sometimes, that's exactly the right thing to do. Remember, Rosa Parks, the Underground Railroad, etc. involved "the disgruntled breaking the law." I'm not saying the cases are equivalent, just saying that "law" and "morality" bear a tenuous connection at best (similarly, "legal" and "right" have only the loosest of associations).
To be entirely fair, there's a certain immediacy in those professions that isn't present in education. A pop quiz tomorrow is as effective as a pop quiz today; a fire truck tomorrow, rather less so.
Teachers are 100% allowed to strike in Oklahoma against the state. Teachers are not allowed to strike against their district. Therefore, you are completely incorrect about everything dealing with the walkout.
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