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First you identify real problems. Then solve or remedy them one at a time. You only have gridlock and real problems when 2 sides cant agree. If you have gridlock, nothing gets addressed or solved. When you have gridlock you get Obamacare.
Actually, obamacare was passed due to zero gridlock. It was passed under one party control and the only negotiation needed was watering it down just enough (or giving enough handouts) to get enough votes within that party.

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This is true. Thats why I chuckle when someone claims to only be a GOP or Dem, so they can vote in our closed Primary. Can a Republican vote in a Democratic Primary here in our state? NO. So if the Dem has a strong moderate Candidate, theres no way to get your vote to him if your registered as a GOP, other than in the General election.

And we all know the only real votes that count are cast in the General. Theres no need to be a Dem or Republican....who cares who gets nominated, vote for the best guy.
In my district, Republicans always win and Democrats never run a serious candidate if they run one at all. The primary often is the election.

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You cant force them to work together. Political History has shown trends of ebb and flow to either side. Moderates, usually stay the course. The GOP is undergoing a radical shift to the far right. They are consuming each other, similar to what happened to the left when Clintons Dems lost touch with the base and pushed healthcare, gun control and other stuff.

Reasonable Moderates from both parties will eventually bring stability to one party or another.

They're just trying to counter balance the far left president and senate.
 

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First you identify real problems. Then solve or remedy them one at a time. You only have gridlock and real problems when 2 sides cant agree. If you have gridlock, nothing gets addressed or solved. When you have gridlock you get Obamacare.

Exactly! And quite honestly, most of the country wanted healthcare insurance reform. By ignoring this the republicans failed to participate and contribute to the bill. Now we have a pile of crap that isn't helping anyone.
 

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They're just trying to counter balance the far left president and senate.

No theyre trying to gain power. Just as the left did when they had a super majority. Which is when we got Obamacare shoved up our butt.

I do think this schism within the GOP, is pitting moderate vs far right Tea Party. Once that works itself out, we can get back to governing.
 

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Exactly! And quite honestly, most of the country wanted healthcare insurance reform. By ignoring this the republicans failed to participate and contribute to the bill. Now we have a pile of crap that isn't helping anyone.

So very true. Its same with immigration. The majority want it reformed, not reinvented. Americans tear down wall not build them.
 

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Exactly! And quite honestly, most of the country wanted healthcare insurance reform. By ignoring this the republicans failed to participate and contribute to the bill. Now we have a pile of crap that isn't helping anyone.
Actually the Republicans proposed a number of fixes and bills, they were all ignored by Democrats and the media.

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