Oh Norman..........Mask Alert.......The Sky is Falling

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Not possible. Millieals can not read nor understand cursive writing, and I do not print.
 

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Not possible. Millieals can not read nor understand cursive writing, and I do not print.

Pen/pencil and paper is the ADA compliance guideline for the hearing impaired. Improvise, adapt, and overcome. Points for hyperbole though. Honestly, it was a good counterpoint to masks until I googled it.

https://www.ada.gov/effective-comm.htm
 

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Pen/pencil and paper is the ADA compliance guideline for the hearing impaired. Improvise, adapt, and overcome. Points for hyperbole though. Honestly, it was a good counterpoint to masks until I googled it.

https://www.ada.gov/effective-comm.htm
So according to the link you provided, and I didn't see the pencil and paper thing,

For people who are deaf, have hearing loss, or are deaf-blind, this includes providing a qualified notetaker; a qualified sign language interpreter, oral interpreter, cued-speech interpreter, or tactile interpreter; real-time captioning; written materials; or a printed script of a stock speech (such as given on a museum or historic house tour). A “qualified” interpreter means someone who is able to interpret effectively, accurately, and impartially, both receptively (i.e., understanding what the person with the disability is saying) and expressively (i.e., having the skill needed to convey information back to that person) using any necessary specialized vocabulary.

In addition, aids and services include a wide variety of technologies including 1) assistive listening systems and devices; 2) open captioning, closed captioning, real-time captioning, and closed caption decoders and devices; 3) telephone handset amplifiers, hearing-aid compatible telephones, text telephones (TTYs) , videophones, captioned telephones, and other voice, text, and video-based telecommunications products; 4) videotext displays; 5) screen reader software, magnification software, and optical readers; 6) video description and secondary auditory programming (SAP) devices that pick up video-described audio feeds for television programs; 7) accessibility features in electronic documents and other electronic and information technology that is accessible (either independently or through assistive technology such as screen readers) .

Real-time captioning (also known as computer-assisted real-time transcription, or CART) is a service similar to court reporting in which a transcriber types what is being said at a meeting or event into a computer that projects the words onto a screen. This service, which can be provided on-site or remotely, is particularly useful for people who are deaf or have hearing loss but do not use sign language.

Your telling me that a restaurant server is going to provide any of this?
Its obvious that you don't understand the disability of hearing loss and the interaction that one with that disability has to endure in public.
How would your self esteem feel if after a two minute interaction with a server or a person at a check out counter with a mask on that you couldn't understand gave you a pencil and a piece of paper to express your conversation.
I know what my response would be if that happened.
 

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So according to the link you provided, and I didn't see the pencil and paper thing,

For people who are deaf, have hearing loss, or are deaf-blind, this includes providing a qualified notetaker; a qualified sign language interpreter, oral interpreter, cued-speech interpreter, or tactile interpreter; real-time captioning; written materials; or a printed script of a stock speech (such as given on a museum or historic house tour). A “qualified” interpreter means someone who is able to interpret effectively, accurately, and impartially, both receptively (i.e., understanding what the person with the disability is saying) and expressively (i.e., having the skill needed to convey information back to that person) using any necessary specialized vocabulary.

In addition, aids and services include a wide variety of technologies including 1) assistive listening systems and devices; 2) open captioning, closed captioning, real-time captioning, and closed caption decoders and devices; 3) telephone handset amplifiers, hearing-aid compatible telephones, text telephones (TTYs) , videophones, captioned telephones, and other voice, text, and video-based telecommunications products; 4) videotext displays; 5) screen reader software, magnification software, and optical readers; 6) video description and secondary auditory programming (SAP) devices that pick up video-described audio feeds for television programs; 7) accessibility features in electronic documents and other electronic and information technology that is accessible (either independently or through assistive technology such as screen readers) .

Real-time captioning (also known as computer-assisted real-time transcription, or CART) is a service similar to court reporting in which a transcriber types what is being said at a meeting or event into a computer that projects the words onto a screen. This service, which can be provided on-site or remotely, is particularly useful for people who are deaf or have hearing loss but do not use sign language.

Your telling me that a restaurant server is going to provide any of this?
Its obvious that you don't understand the disability of hearing loss and the interaction that one with that disability has to endure in public.
How would your self esteem feel if after a two minute interaction with a server or a person at a check out counter with a mask on that you couldn't understand gave you a pencil and a piece of paper to express your conversation.
I know what my response would be if that happened.

No worries, it was hidden right at the top in the overview.

People who have vision, hearing, or speech disabilities (“communication disabilities”) use different ways to communicate. For example, people who are blind may give and receive information audibly rather than in writing and people who are deaf may give and receive information through writing or sign language rather than through speech.

I get it. But if you feel embarrassed, it's your chip on your shoulder, and I honestly empathize with you. Only the lowest forms of life would make fun of a disability. Oddly enough, those dang millennials are probably the most understanding, accepting, and most "woke" of all generations, they bend over backwards to offer their assistance in a moment like that. I only offer a solution man... I can't not make you feel like the victim.
 
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So according to the link you provided, and I didn't see the pencil and paper thing,

For people who are deaf, have hearing loss, or are deaf-blind, this includes providing a qualified notetaker; a qualified sign language interpreter, oral interpreter, cued-speech interpreter, or tactile interpreter; real-time captioning; written materials; or a printed script of a stock speech (such as given on a museum or historic house tour). A “qualified” interpreter means someone who is able to interpret effectively, accurately, and impartially, both receptively (i.e., understanding what the person with the disability is saying) and expressively (i.e., having the skill needed to convey information back to that person) using any necessary specialized vocabulary.

In addition, aids and services include a wide variety of technologies including 1) assistive listening systems and devices; 2) open captioning, closed captioning, real-time captioning, and closed caption decoders and devices; 3) telephone handset amplifiers, hearing-aid compatible telephones, text telephones (TTYs) , videophones, captioned telephones, and other voice, text, and video-based telecommunications products; 4) videotext displays; 5) screen reader software, magnification software, and optical readers; 6) video description and secondary auditory programming (SAP) devices that pick up video-described audio feeds for television programs; 7) accessibility features in electronic documents and other electronic and information technology that is accessible (either independently or through assistive technology such as screen readers) .

Real-time captioning (also known as computer-assisted real-time transcription, or CART) is a service similar to court reporting in which a transcriber types what is being said at a meeting or event into a computer that projects the words onto a screen. This service, which can be provided on-site or remotely, is particularly useful for people who are deaf or have hearing loss but do not use sign language.

Your telling me that a restaurant server is going to provide any of this?
Its obvious that you don't understand the disability of hearing loss and the interaction that one with that disability has to endure in public.
How would your self esteem feel if after a two minute interaction with a server or a person at a check out counter with a mask on that you couldn't understand gave you a pencil and a piece of paper to express your conversation.
I know what my response would be if that happened.

Yep....

A lot of my understanding what others are saying comes by real time processing of reading lips mixed with what I’m actually hearing.

Anyone without significant hearing damage can’t begin to understand how frustrating it is even under the best of circumstances. Put on a mask and screw it, I’m done. The mask compounds the issue even further by muffling voices.
 

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Yep....

A lot of my understanding what others are saying comes by real time processing of reading lips mixed with what I’m actually hearing.

Anyone without significant hearing damage can’t begin to understand how frustrating it is even under the best of circumstances. Put on a mask and screw it, I’m done. The mask compounds the issue even further by muffling voices.

I didn't realize how much I read lips until there was a mask hiding and muffling along with the addition of a plexiglass barrier, some voices I cant understand whatsoever.
 

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I need and have hearing aids (thank you VA) but normally only wear them around the house in the evenings to catch the evening news or watch the rare movie that appeals to me because if I don't mama complains that the tv is too loud.

Monday morning I noticed that I couldn't understand the pre-op nurse and I kept saying, Huh ? then I noticed it again yesterday morning when I went for my yearly heart checkup and again I kept saying, What ?, Huh ?

It's true that masks do muffle / distort speech and for those like me that are already hard of hearing it's especially noticeable.

Now that mask wearing is the new norm here it looks like I'm going to have to start wearing my hearing aids more often when I'm out and about which I probably should have been doing from the git go.
 

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So do hookers charge more for no mask?

If you'll recall, back when this Chinese Flu Panic started, I tried to call attention to the fact that hookers face danger and disease every day. Honoring Cops, nurses, aviation workers? Hell, those jobs are sissy stuff compared to what hookers face. KRMG raised damn near a half a million dollars for two shot cops yesterday...a hooker gets killed, nobody gives a crap.

Hookers - the real heroes in society. Providing services, facing danger, and not shooting your dog.

Oh - and screw your mask laws.
 

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If you'll recall, back when this Chinese Flu Panic started, I tried to call attention to the fact that hookers face danger and disease every day. Honoring Cops, nurses, aviation workers? Hell, those jobs are sissy stuff compared to what hookers face. KRMG raised damn near a half a million dollars for two shot cops yesterday...a hooker gets killed, nobody gives a crap.

Hookers - the real heroes in society. Providing services, facing danger, and not shooting your dog.

Oh - and screw your mask laws.
Way to go KRMG!
 

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