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HMFIC · Oct 30, 2011

It is not illegal for a person to do that and certainly not a felony!

That said, doe anyone think it's ok for a person to cut right in the middle of two people trying to deal on a firearm. Especially in one of the person's place of business? If it were my shop, I think I'd take offense too.

I don't know anything about Gun World and evidently people don't like them and think they deserve it... maybe, but that doesn't have anything to do with the guy cutting in on them.

I do agree with SMS that the threat of felony and yelling at the door etc was over the top, but IMHO, both parties were out of line.

SoonerStatePawn · Oct 30, 2011

HMFIC said:
It is not illegal for a person to do that and certainly not a felony!

That said, doe anyone think it's ok for a person to cut right in the middle of two people trying to deal on a firearm. Especially in one of the person's place of business? If it were my shop, I think I'd take offense too.

I don't know anything about Gun World and evidently people don't like them and think they deserve it... maybe, but that doesn't have anything to do with the guy cutting in on them.

I do agree with SMS that the threat of felony and yelling at the door etc was over the top, but IMHO, both parties were out of line.

Totally agree.

It's extremely disrespectful for another person to get in the middle of a transaction I have going on. I'll politely ask the person to leave if they barge in the middle of a deal I'm trying to make. We have it happen every once in awhile. Most people show respect and if the customer declines my offer, they'll meet them in the parking lot to make a deal of their own. I have no problems with that. Agree, both parties were out of line.

reddog1 · Oct 30, 2011

Yeah thats major BS on the threat of a felony.

Im with HMFIC, and SSP totally.

doctorjj · Oct 30, 2011

Was he really barging in on the deal? I was involved in a situation once where a guy came into a gun shop and tried to sell his gun to the dealer. The dealer shot him and offer and they couldn't come to an agreement. As the guy was walking out, I asked him how much he was wanting for it. The dealer got all bent out of shape and was like not here in my shop, your not gonna do that, blah, blah, blah. My take was, hey, I know this is your shop am I respect that but you either didn't want this gun or weren't willing to give the guy what he wanted. Maybe I am willing to give him that much and if I am, how does that negatively affect your business?
Certainly jumping in while they are haggling would be wrong, but once it's determined that the dealer isn't willing to do the deal, why should he care if anyone else does or where they do it?

SoonerStatePawn · Oct 30, 2011

doctorjj said:
Was he really barging in on the deal? I was involved in a situation once where a guy came into a gun shop and tried to sell his gun to the dealer. The dealer shot him and offer and they couldn't come to an agreement. As the guy was walking out, I asked him how much he was wanting for it. The dealer got all bent out of shape and was like not here in my shop, your not gonna do that, blah, blah, blah. My take was, hey, I know this is your shop am I respect that but you either didn't want this gun or weren't willing to give the guy what he wanted. Maybe I am willing to give him that much and if I am, how does that negatively affect your business?
Certainly jumping in while they are haggling would be wrong, but once it's determined that the dealer isn't willing to do the deal, why should he care if anyone else does or where they do it?

I'm not condoning what happened at Gun World. I think they were more out of line than the customer in that situation. I'm just saying in general, the dealer has the overhead and pays to keep his doors open. I just think if you're in someone's shop out of respect catch the person in the parking lot to talk money, not inside someone else place of business.

dwmmg08 · Oct 30, 2011

I've never bought anything there because I've never felt like i've been treated well there, and their prices are insane. I have had fun running around their store with my 3 year old, looking, but... paying $495 for a $350 gun wasn't on my list of things to do that day. I actually tried to buy some gun oil and ammo, but no-one was interested in waiting on me, so I put it back, and we left. Same story every time I've been there, it seems like. Glad I'm not the only one! :violin:

chazroh · Oct 30, 2011

i have been run off from dongs parking lot for the same story. guy came in and didnt like their low ball price, i followed him out and offered a little more, and just then the guy came out holloring about how i cant do that on his property. so we drove next door and finished.

Kid Glock · Oct 30, 2011

I've had many opportunities to be involved in a transaction while visiting gun stores & pawn shops and although some deals were very tempting, if they couldn't come to terms, I'd wait outside to discuss it with the seller.
Same for gunshows but I'd just wait till they left the table.
As to gunworld, I've never been and after reading all the negative stuff not only in this thread but on this board, I have no intention of ever going. Matter of fact it sounds like a place to avoid.
I can deal with azzholes to an extent if a good deal is the end result but I don't think there are many deals at GW.
I can be an azzhole myself if I put my mind to it and at that point the shop can tell me to leave etc. or even threaten me with a felony. I'd just tell them to call the cops, then wait outside to see what felony I've committed if/when they show up.

mr ed · Oct 30, 2011

Dave70968 said:
Can you cite the title and section of the United States Code that specifies "on the property?" I was under the impression that the recording requirements applied to a licensee, not to his property.

don't know the code # but it refers to the ffl's "licensed premises" meaning property.

HMFIC · Oct 30, 2011

doctorjj said:
Was he really barging in on the deal? I was involved in a situation once where a guy came into a gun shop and tried to sell his gun to the dealer. The dealer shot him and offer and they couldn't come to an agreement. As the guy was walking out, I asked him how much he was wanting for it. The dealer got all bent out of shape and was like not here in my shop, your not gonna do that, blah, blah, blah. My take was, hey, I know this is your shop am I respect that but you either didn't want this gun or weren't willing to give the guy what he wanted. Maybe I am willing to give him that much and if I am, how does that negatively affect your business?
Certainly jumping in while they are haggling would be wrong, but once it's determined that the dealer isn't willing to do the deal, why should he care if anyone else does or where they do it?

Well we only have the information that was in the original post. In it, the quote goes like this:

A guy comes in with a 1967 Browning A5 in 2 3/4". When asked what it was worth the clerk said about $900 but I'll only give you $100 for it. I then asked they guy what he wanted for it and that when things went south. The clerk immediately said "Its a felony for you to even ask or talk about buying a gun from another person in here and I can get fired for it". I said OK and backed away. They guy walked past me and quietly said I'll be out front if want to talk about it. I said OK.

So, if it went down exactly as presented, then yes, he was barging in on the deal and could have been the whole reason that there wasn't any further haggling or trying to come to an agreement. Anytime a deal is being worked on and someone mouths up, it's queers the deal. Plain and simple.

In your case, what you described was a seller who had finished completely and was on his way out before you spoke up. Not the same.

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