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BobbyV

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No offense to you, but no general Joe Schmoe is copying my anything. I like to keep my information private, and if you're selling me a table, a gaming console or a cat trapeze, you don't have a need or a right to my personal information. I personally don't see a firearm as any different, and the only requirement by law is that if I don't have a REASON to suspect you are a criminal or doing something illegal, I can sell to you or buy from you.

If someone tells me they want to copy my information, our deal is off. No harm no foul, unless I'm upset because they didn't tell me this beforehand and I went out of my way to come meet them. If you have those requirements, you really need to make those known to people before you make arrangements. Maybe you do, and if so, cool, just if someone springs that on me after I've driven 45 minutes to go meet them, I'm probably going to be pretty irritated.

If someone asks you to sign a bill of sale for the gun that indicates you're NOT a prohibited possessor is that acceptable?
 

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Just for this reason, I always copy their drivers license any gun license (if they have one). I take a picture of the license and bill of sale and save them on my computer/tablet in a specialized folder.

like TRidiot said, I would refuse to comply with what is not a legal mandate, and I’d be miffed if I drove to a FTF only to find out at the time that it was an expectation. Say so up front so potential buyers will know. There have been several occasions in recent memory where I saw a firearm for sale in the classifieds here, and I read the ad with great interest until I saw that “requirement.”

My response each time was along the lines of a mental “Dude, really?” clicking X
 

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like TRidiot said, I would refuse to comply with what is not a legal mandate, and I’d be miffed if I drove to a FTF only to find out at the time that it was an expectation. Say so up front so potential buyers will know. There have been several occasions in recent memory where I saw a firearm for sale in the classifieds here, and I read the ad with great interest until I saw that “requirement.”

My response each time was along the lines of a mental “Dude, really?” clicking X

I agree that until it's a legal requirement that it shouldn't be "required" and if the seller wants to go that route they need to be up front about it.

Would you sign a bill of sale if no pictures of your ID/SDA license were taken?

Or if the bill of sale only included your name and SDA license #?
 

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like TRidiot said, I would refuse to comply with what is not a legal mandate, and I’d be miffed if I drove to a FTF only to find out at the time that it was an expectation. Say so up front so potential buyers will know. There have been several occasions in recent memory where I saw a firearm for sale in the classifieds here, and I read the ad with great interest until I saw that “requirement.”

My response each time was along the lines of a mental “Dude, really?” clicking X
I totally understand your position on this.
But...…….I don't want to spend hundreds/thousand of dollars on a firearm and later find out that it has been stolen, used in a violent crime and taken away from me by the cops. Not to mention all the hassle I would have to go through explaining where I got the gun from. If I have a receipt and a license, all I have to do is give that information to the LEO and they will search down that person and leave me along.

My dad is a retired Georgia State Trooper and this was his advise from when I started buying and selling guns years ago. I have followed his advise on this my whole life and never have had a problem.

My thinking is why take the chance when you don't have to.

PS. And I have always put the stipulation of requiring a receipt and license on all of my gun sales. So I have never had a problem with it during the FTF.
 

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I agree that until it's a legal requirement that it shouldn't be "required" and if the seller wants to go that route they need to be up front about it.

Would you sign a bill of sale if no pictures of your ID/SDA license were taken?

Or if the bill of sale only included your name and SDA license #?

None of that is legally mandated, so nope. Don’t have a reason to believe this person is legally barred from purchasing a firearm? Firearm goes one way, cash goes the other way, bye.
 

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No offense to you, but no general Joe Schmoe is copying my anything. I like to keep my information private, and if you're selling me a table, a gaming console or a cat trapeze, you don't have a need or a right to my personal information. I personally don't see a firearm as any different, and the only requirement by law is that if I don't have a REASON to suspect you are a criminal or doing something illegal, I can sell to you or buy from you.

If someone tells me they want to copy my information, our deal is off. No harm no foul, unless I'm upset because they didn't tell me this beforehand and I went out of my way to come meet them. If you have those requirements, you really need to make those known to people before you make arrangements. Maybe you do, and if so, cool, just if someone springs that on me after I've driven 45 minutes to go meet them, I'm probably going to be pretty irritated.
Your irritation pales in comparison to sitting in the hall of the federal courthouse waiting to answer questions in front of the grand jury
 

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I totally understand your position on this.
But...…….I don't want to spend hundreds/thousand of dollars on a firearm and later find out that it has been stolen, used in a violent crime and taken away from me by the cops. Not to mention all the hassle I would have to go through explaining where I got the gun from. If I have a receipt and a license, all I have to do is give that information to the LEO and they will search down that person and leave me along.

How would you know the firearm was stolen or had been used illegally, unless you create paper trails from the seller through to your own sale and you make the SN available to LE?

And do you believe a receipt would prevent the police from confiscating the firearm to be returned to the rightful owner or to be used as evidence? I have to disagree; a receipt won’t do you much good, but will more likely lose you a potential sale to a good number of people.
 

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I'll be happy to show someone my OK CCW to prove I'm a resident and not prohibited but all deals are off the second someone wants my signature or to write any of that info down.

Lately I just buy from dealers anyway. I don't get the aversion to a 4473 thing. It's not like they don't know I have guns already. I mean I sent my prints in to the FBI for my CCW lol..

My CCW is always something I purchased brand new from a dealer. I want to be 100% positive that if I get pulled over there is ZERO possibility of any SN# issues popping up 800 miles from home. NOT COOL!
 

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How would you know the firearm was stolen or had been used illegally, unless you create paper trails from the seller through to your own sale and you make the SN available to LE?

And do you believe a receipt would prevent the police from confiscating the firearm to be returned to the rightful owner or to be used as evidence? I have to disagree; a receipt won’t do you much good, but will more likely lose you a potential sale to a good number of people.
I understand that and I know that if I have a gun that I had purchased and I came back as being stolen, it would get confiscated and I would want it to go back to it's rightful owner. But then the process of me having to prove where I got the gun from and who I got the gun from can be a long and costly process. But if I have a record of all my firearm transactions (just like any other gun shop), that process of proving where I got the gun from is very easy.

It's just my way, not that it's the best way or better than anybody else way.

Plus I have never had a problem selling any of my firearm's in a timely manner this way.
 

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