Are rifles redundant/Pointless?

[zghorner]

I'll take a rifle over a shotgun for home defense any day of the week.

I have to agree with the above. I am the proud owner of (IMO) the finest HD shotgun readily available which is the VEPR12 and up until now I considered it the pinnacle of HD weaponry...Started a thread on another forum about combat shotguns and SMS & Uncle Money Bags have successfully changed my opinion.

What does a shotgun do for HD better than...say...a 5.56 or 300blk AR?

- buckshot does NOT fan out at inside the home distances so you have to aim JUST AS WELL to hit you target with either.
- It kicks like a sumbitch making follow up shots slower and less accurate.
- it has limited capacity (think multiple targets).
- MOST people run buckshot and or slugs so barrier penetration is equally an issue.
- If you run birdshot to avoid barrier penetration, you decrease your chances of neutralizing a threat.

I hate to just ship and argue the other side but as it sits right now I have to say rifle > shotgun...not that anyone cares.

 

[RustedBeef]

Everyone knows that citizens don't need hi-cap weapons or assault rifles anyway. You gun-crazies need to just turn 'em in.

Funny part is I used to be pretty anti gun.

 

[RustedBeef]

I have to agree with the above. I am the proud owner of (IMO) the finest HD shotgun readily available which is the VEPR12 and up until now I considered it the pinnacle of HD weaponry...Started a thread on another forum about combat shotguns and SMS & Uncle Money Bags have successfully changed my opinion.

What does a shotgun do for HD better than...say...a 5.56 or 300blk AR?

- buckshot does NOT fan out at inside the home distances so you have to aim JUST AS WELL to hit you target with either.
- It kicks like a sum***** making follow up shots slower and less accurate.
- it has limited capacity (think multiple targets).
- MOST people run buckshot and or slugs so barrier penetration is equally an issue.
- If you run birdshot to avoid barrier penetration, you decrease your chances of neutralizing a threat.


I hate to just ship and argue the other side but as it sits right now I have to say rifle > shotgun...not that anyone cares.

Yeah it was a tough call. Kind da wanted to save up for an AK/SKS or something but that shotgun was so cheap and had good reviews plus I get 10% off due to employee discount. Hard to pass up. Figure if I do get a rifle it could be another HD gun staged in another room.

Would you store a rifle in the living room or bedroom? My apt is practically just those two rooms, both a straight line of sight to the door with the bedroom being further away.

 

[carleb]

If it ever really goes over the edge, I expect the true patriot LE and military to be fighting on my side! In which case something like an AR will be my minor contribution to the cause!

 

[slas]

For me it's putting meat in the freezer and on the table. A 308 due to the large amount and accessibility of ammo offerings. Can take down most anything in North America. Tikka CTR 308 was my personal preference.

 

[nich018]

agree with AR 15 good choice

 

[Pulp]

If all you're interested in is home defense weapons, then a lever action Winchester, Rossi, or Puma '92 in .357 would compliment your current collection quite nicely.

 

[RustedBeef]

Actually a lever action 357 mag would be pretty good. I reload for .38 special and that'd give me a reason to start collecting more .357 brass.

 

[Pulp]

Most of the lever .357's will run .38Spcl brass, but you will probably have to tinker with seating depth and OAL.

 

[zghorner]

the 1880s just called and wants its HD rifle back.