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That's why I tell people to pick one EDC. Do not have a rotation of different positioned holsters, different functioning guns, different ammo. You need consistency, I know this because of experience. Pick out one system you can and will, commit to training with and commit to carry every day. Know the function of your gun. Know your sight picture. Know the direction your magazine reload is facing. Do not train to catch your ejected magazine let it drop. Always have your reload ready coming up to the gun when ejecting the empty. Know where you put your hand on the magazine and practice practice practice until it is muscle memory. This will greatly reduce the FU factor when the pucker factor hits.

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Glocktogo : On Oklahoma, a shooting ruled justifiable homicide is a legal defense against civil suit. A 3rd year law student could get the suit dismissed with prejudice in Oklahoma. Just saying...

You are correct but it still does not change the fact that a lawyer will have to be hired to challenge the suit before a judge because there is NO LAW to stop the so called "victim" or his family from filing a lawsuit against any citizen that defends them self with a firearm or secondary Items such as Pepper Spray or Stun Gun.
Anyone who really wants to know about civil liabilities in Oklahoma when using a firearm should watch this video.

http://robleslawfirmokc.com/



I used to think this Tx firm was probably pretty good at what they do, but with the 2A Auditor getting arrested for illegal carry in a local OKC eatery/bar, an Ok lawyer that represents the firm was quoted in a video on this forum saying the 2A Auditor was within his rights, when clearly OK law says he wasn't. All the case law and regulations were posted on OSA by members to prove him totally incorrect.
Current Ok law about civil liabilities are as follows:

TITLE 21 § 1289.25 PHYSICAL OR DEADLY FORCE AGAINST INTRUDER

F. A person who uses defensive force, as permitted pursuant to the provisions of subsections A, B, D and E of this section, is justified in using such defensive force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such defensive force. As used in this subsection, the term "criminal prosecution" includes charging or prosecuting the defendant.

G. A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of defensive force, but the law enforcement agency may not arrest the person for using defensive force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the defensive force that was used was unlawful.

H. The court shall award reasonable attorney fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection F of this section.

So, what we are all saying is that if you follow the law, some civil action may be attempted, but any lawyer that is practicing and wants a win in their colum won't even think about taking a justifiable shooting frivolous lawsuit.
The defendant can recover every dime of money spent trying to file such a pile of BS.
 

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I used to think this Tx firm was probably pretty good at what they do, but with the 2A Auditor getting arrested for illegal carry in a local OKC eatery/bar, an Ok lawyer that represents the firm was quoted in a video on this forum saying the 2A Auditor was within his rights, when clearly OK law says he wasn't. All the case law and regulations were posted on OSA by members to prove him totally incorrect.
Current Ok law about civil liabilities are as follows:

TITLE 21 § 1289.25 PHYSICAL OR DEADLY FORCE AGAINST INTRUDER

F. A person who uses defensive force, as permitted pursuant to the provisions of subsections A, B, D and E of this section, is justified in using such defensive force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such defensive force. As used in this subsection, the term "criminal prosecution" includes charging or prosecuting the defendant.

G. A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of defensive force, but the law enforcement agency may not arrest the person for using defensive force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the defensive force that was used was unlawful.

H. The court shall award reasonable attorney fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection F of this section.

So, what we are all saying is that if you follow the law, some civil action may be attempted, but any lawyer that is practicing and wants a win in their colum won't even think about taking a justifiable shooting frivolous lawsuit.
The defendant can recover every dime of money spent trying to file such a pile of BS.

Very true. But, either way, the lawyers get paid! If somebody is naive enough to want to do it, I promise you they can find a lawyer who will take it on for them!



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