Man robs bank in order to obtain medical treatment

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Damn - if only he could have contacted me; I could have hooked him up with my wife's two lazy step-bitches who are in my age group (early 40s) and both are on SSI, with no real health problems other than having imaginary "carpal tunnel syndrome" and "a bad back". They could have easily told him how to milk the system for much, much more than food stamps.



Carpel tunnel syndrome is not imaginary, it is real, painful and very debilitating in some cases.
 

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Carpel tunnel syndrome is not imaginary, it is real, painful and very debilitating in some cases.

I took his comment as his sister in laws are a bunch of hypochondriac fakers trying to score an easy buck, much like the people who get in fender benders then jump out holding their necks screaming "whiplash!", rather than him doubting the legitimacy or severity of carpal tunnel.
 

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Which is why the country's PM flew here to have surgery?

I'm not going to pretend like our capitalist system of medicine hasn't yielded some pretty awesome drugs and innovative procedures. Just like no system is perfect, our system isn't without merit.

I just wish this guy didn't have to rob a bank.
 

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Incorrect. I know several people getting their meds for free that were prescribed by a free clinic. One of them is a former employee and by law in all 50 states, any acute care is rendered in emergency rooms. Furthermore, public hospitals will provide long term care on a tailored repayment plan customized to someone's financial situation. This means that people without the means to pay get the care free. Hospitals have charity lines of funds designed to defray these expenses that comes from what the rest of us pay.

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The young lady I know that is poor and needs medical help but does not qualify for state or federal help has been to DHS, the hospital, and the "payment is based on your income" med clinic places down here in cherokee county. DHS told her tuff luck, the hospital told her no pay no play except for the emergency room, and even then if they wrote her a script she would be responsible to pay for it at the pharmacy of her choice, and the payment based on income clinic would not do any tests unless she had the payment in advance for full cost of the test in advance.

My wife took her to most of these places and was with her when she was told the above, so I know it is what they told the girl. If there is indeed free meds and medical help avaliable, the above mentioned places are keeping it a good secret around here at least.
 

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I'd rather move to Sweden than die, honestly.

As PG said, our medical system has yielded to an abundance of specialists. We are a fortunate country with regards to the advances we have made in medicine. That is why the Canadian PM came here for surgery. But with regards to general practitioners and whole health, we could definitely improve. I'd reckon the PM didn't come here for regular checkups or anything similar; our family doctors I doubt are any more competent or advanced than the ones in Canada.

Here, most "family doctors" are forced to spend as little face time with patients as possible in order to reach productivity standards mandated by the health systems who employ them. I don't believe a federal health care mandate is the answer, but I wish we could find a way to incentivize relationship-building and encourage more doctors away from the lucrative specialist positions.
 

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I'm not going to pretend like our capitalist system of medicine hasn't yielded some pretty awesome drugs and innovative procedures. Just like no system is perfect, our system isn't without merit.

I just wish this guy didn't have to rob a bank.

I absolutely agree, but for me it's hard to say he exhausted every avenue. It's not that I don't believe him, I've just seen some persistent people get some free healthcare. Of course, I've seen some people get turned down too. We are not perfect, but looking towards Canada isn't the answer, considering they look to us when something REALLY goes wrong.
 

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isolated cases needing specialists has zero to do with the other 99.9% of normal type healthcare.

as Spock famously said: "the needs of the many exceeds the needs of a few"

Which is why the country's PM flew here to have surgery?

No one is claiming government run heathcare is without warts. but our system is broken and the most expensive in the world. while delivering one of the worst track records.

last time I looked Medicare for elderly folks is working and has been working for decades. what's broken is the unfettered profits incentives that's breaking our system.

rewards for tests and procedures... more tests, more $$$ profits. instead of rewarding for healthy patients like the Canadian and other government run system does.

our drug costs are the highest in the world. And don't give me the crap about how they are developed here... how we are paying costs to make for rest of word crap.... the truth is a LOT of drugs are discovered in labs subsidized by the US in form of research at our universities.

like the oil companies... drug companies enjoy some of the highest net profits on earth. why should the US pay drug prices 20x higher that rest of world? why are there laws preventing drugs to be rated by price? etc. etc.

there's LOADS more reason why a for profit attached to heathcare is bad for all except the HUGE Corporations making HUGE profits!!!!

Yep the joys of a government run healthcare system.

no is entitled to anyone's services or products. just the the system delivering it is broken. all the incentives is broken... more tests means more profits and less risks of getting sued.

when in fact profits should be tied to how healthy your patient remains.

it's a fact Canadian doctors are among the highest paid in the world.
so don't say the doctors are not well rewarded in government run heathcare.

I figure you're not entitled to the services of other people if you can't afford them. If they want to give you that service for free that is great, but the government forcing them to give it to you or burdening the tax payers with it is wrong. Sorry if I sound cold hearted, but I feel like we are responsible for taking care of ourselves. I think we should take care of our brothers and sisters here too if we have extra, but that is up to the individual. Not government mandate.

No one claimed Canadian system is perfect ... there are drawbacks too.
but their system warts and all is light years ahead of ours in USA.

if medical condition was an emergency. it'd been taken care of immediately!!

I'm on a chainsaw forum with LOTS of Canadian and UK members. Chainsaw is one of the most dangerous occupations in the world. so accidents do happen... LOTS of cases of Canadian citizens getting air lifted after a nasty chainsaw accident, then getting world class medical care afterwards. this included physical therapy... all at next to zero costs

vs someone in the USA getting hurt with same chainsaw accident.... they are automatically bankrupt from paying for medical care. this includes folks that had excellent heathcare insurance.

A buddy of mine in Canada tore his pectoralis major.

After 3 months they told him if he waits 6 more months he can get surgery to fix it.

Of course it's already too late.

NO system is perfect... LOTS more folks are happy with the Canadian system. it's impossible to make everyone happy.

most folks ... even folks that's worked their entire lives building up substantial assets... are just ONE major medical event away from being bankrupt. this is even with good heathcare insurance.

our system is broken!!!!
really disappointed with Obamacare for the wrong reasons.

Obamacare added ALL the negatives without the benefits.
health insurance, drug companies, major hospital chains, etc were the BIG winners... not the folks that need help in getting cost of healthcare down.

in short all the negatives related to government heathcare mandates without the benefits... that's Obamacare.

That's not how my Canadian friends tell it.
 

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No one is claiming government run heathcare is without warts. but our system is broken and the most expensive in the world. while delivering one of the worst track records.

Worst track records.... which is why people fly here to have procedures done?

last time I looked Medicare for elderly folks is working and has been working for decades. what's broken is the unfettered profits incentives that's breaking our system.

Medicare is working? What world are you living in? Talk to me in a few years when the money runs out and the gradual tightening and extensive bureaucracy makes it worthless.

rewards for tests and procedures... more tests, more $$$ profits. instead of rewarding for healthy patients like the Canadian and other government run system does.

Tests nowdays are a CYA type thing from everything I've been exposed to. How are Canadian doctors rewarded for "healthy" patients?

our drug costs are the highest in the world. And don't give me the crap about how they are developed here... how we are paying costs to make for rest of word crap.... .

They ARE developed here. Sorry but we are the innovators, don't like it? Can't admit it? Deny it all you like but it's just the way it is.

the truth is a LOT of drugs are discovered in labs subsidized by the US in form of research at our universities

There are grants etc, but you've lost your mind if you think they gov picks up all of the tab.

like the oil companies... drug companies enjoy some of the highest net profits on earth. why should the US pay drug prices 20x higher that rest of world? why are there laws preventing drugs to be rated by price? etc. etc.

There's some reform to be had, actually, what needs to happen is the easing of patents so that generics can be more competitive.

there's LOADS more reason why a for profit attached to heathcare is bad for all except the HUGE Corporations making HUGE profits!!!!

Yes, you absolutely deserve to get what someone else makes. Socialism isn't the answer, never has been..... never will be.
 

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