Yes.Are you sure about that? Like, really sure?
https://www.ou.edu/bursar/tuition_fees
ETA: I am not counting housing costs because you'll have housing costs whether you're in school or not.
Yes.Are you sure about that? Like, really sure?
Real question --- did you go to the links or read the post? Or are you just selectively choosing information you want to look at. The link you sent shows academic costs. Tuition and mandatory fees --- which are higher than your initial quote to begin with by 2k a semester. That page fails to mention a complete cost estimate like I cited. Unless people are homeless, not eating food, etc, there will be additional costs as noted in the link I sent and the information I copied and pasted.
Are you sure about that? Like, really sure? I mean, their own websites here show OU's estimated costs at 31k per year. Here's the breakdown for OU and OSU and the links there should you want to look. OSU was a little cheaper at 28k estimated. As expected TU (also linked) was the highest cost at 56K but to save post space I'll not copy/paste that.
https://www.ou.edu/admissions/affordability/costhttps://go.okstate.edu/scholarships...e/undergraduate-cost/in-state-cost/index.htmlhttps://utulsa.edu/financial-aid/tuition-costs/OU:
Average Direct Cost Estimate Cost Tuition & Fees* $12,788 Housing & Food $11,700 Books & Supplies $800 Total Average Direct Cost Estimate for Residents $25,288
Average Indirect Cost Estimate Cost Personal & Miscellaneous $4,238 Transportation $2,324 Loan Fees $71 Total Average Indirect Cost Estimate for Residents $6,633
Total Average Cost Estimates for Residents (Direct & Indirect) $31,545
OSU:
Yearly estimates
In-state students
Direct Expenses Tuition & fees (30 hour estimate) $13,280 Housing & meals (on- or off-campus) $9,340 Books & supplies $1,140 Total $23,760
Additional Personal Expenses Transportation $1,880 Personal & miscellaneous $2,860 Total $4,740
TOTAL: $28,500
No, you're right, I misread the page, but $6,600/semester is still a far cry from $32K/year, and it's about half of the "22500 for JUST the classes" you quoted. I'm not counting housing, food, entertainment, and so forth because those are costs of living, not costs of college.Real question --- did you go to the links or read the post? Or are you just selectively choosing information you want to look at. The link you sent shows academic costs. Tuition and mandatory fees --- which are higher than your initial quote to begin with by 2k a semester. That page fails to mention a complete cost estimate like I cited. Unless people are homeless, not eating food, etc, there will be additional costs as noted in the link I sent and the information I copied and pasted.
So which is it --- are you not reading or you just think that people aren't going to have to pay to live while they are in school or what am I missing? Because your argument is like saying that the total cost of a vehicle is the sticker like you'll never have to pay for gas, oil, maintenance, tolls, registration, plates, etc.
"A significant amount" being able to be circumvented still results in debt at the end of the day. Depending on the college/uni, and a myriad of other factors, it can be cheap or very expensive. I had scholarships/grants/work study and worked a second job and I was still in a pretty pile of debt at the end of it. Interestingly, I was making over, but relatively close to, minimum of the time period IIRC. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $8 something when minimum was 6 something.Only you said when you went to school........when was that for reference and where did you go? Also kids don't make $5-6 an hour now, more like double/triple that at least. Kids can support themselves easily by waiting tables or something of the like. Given all the assistance programs out there as well, I agree with him. A significant amount of debt is easy to circumvent, if you have a decent work ethic that is.
Cost of living 100% factors in. Let's say I'm from Tulsa and want to go to OU. What...am I going to be in my car? I'll have to have a place, Some colleges/universities in fact require people to stay in their housing for a time period. TU does this for instance although I don't know the details anymore. The costs of being there, versus at home,No, you're right, I misread the page, but $6,600/semester is still a far cry from $32K/year, and it's about half of the "22500 for JUST the classes" you quoted. I'm not counting housing, food, entertainment, and so forth because those are costs of living, not costs of college.
Anything to sell ad space.... as usual money is at the root.....Leftists are disgusting. After my USN enlistment, my 5 years at OU were some of the most enlightening and enjoyable years of my life.
I enjoyed stirring the pot in class with my conservative ideals. I also had some great conservative professors. I had great conservative college friends.
My oldest, home schooled son had fun the last two years doing the same with the liberals in the same college. He also had some great conservative professsors. He has great conservative college freinds. He leaves for Army boot camp in 3 weeks to get his patriotism itch scratched.
The sky is not falling, nothing much has changed the last 30 years except the internet and social media to keep both sides enraged all the time.
The cost of living is the cost of living--it's not the cost of education. Unless you're saying that you don't have to pay rent or eat if you don't go to college, the cost of living applies to everyone, so you can't really lump that into the cost of college.Cost of living 100% factors in. Let's say I'm from Tulsa and want to go to OU. What...am I going to be in my car? I'll have to have a place, Some colleges/universities in fact require people to stay in their housing for a time period. TU does this for instance although I don't know the details anymore. The costs of being there, versus at home,
As far as the 6k/22k debate --- it's closer than you think. IIRC my room/board were cheaper in comparison. That's another reason why it's better to look at it as the total estimated cost per year in many cases.
"A significant amount" being able to be circumvented still results in debt at the end of the day. Depending on the college/uni, and a myriad of other factors, it can be cheap or very expensive. I had scholarships/grants/work study and worked a second job and I was still in a pretty pile of debt at the end of it. Interestingly, I was making over, but relatively close to, minimum of the time period IIRC. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $8 something when minimum was 6 something.
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