not flaming you but curious??? is this how the Oregonians delt with these situations?
Not quite what is seems. Dude is cuffed behind his back and most people (I believe) don't go around carrying a set of handcuffs on them. Probably nailed by an off-duty cop with help from bystanders.
Problem is with having private security guards is that they do not have the powers of arrest. Being that they only have the same 'authority' as any other citizen the best they can do is try to go for a citizen arrest which opens them up for charges being brought against them for 'illegal detention' (handcuffing) or 'assault' (tackling someone). That's why companies serious about this stuff have to hire off-duty cops, which is very expensive.
Only place I've ever seen an exception to this was in Las Vegas where casino security staff is afforded SOME leeway by local law enforcement (Metro PD) when it comes to things like apprehension and detentions of someone violating casino security rules, and then ONLY while on casino property. PD still has to be called for either 'trespass' or to make an arrest.
I for one am not a big fan of this idea of “civil enforcement” of what the public sees fit. A lot of guys on here complain about “them no good out of staters” that are around… well, they’re here to help enforce things too if that’s the case.
Also, self appointed groups of individuals who take it upon themselves to punish wrongdoers and uphold the law sounds an awful lot like lynch mobs back in the day.
Also, self appointed groups of individuals who take it upon themselves to punish wrongdoers and uphold the law sounds an awful lot like lynch mobs back in the day.
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It'll start out as justified civilian vigilantes, and quickly escalate to something worse.
The slippery slope works in both political directions, unfortunately.
Yep, it does sound an awful lot like a 'lynch mob' back in the day, but certain demographics have started acting again like they did . . . back in the day. Am I racist, no I never was to any degree, not until some started wanting to make me so, then blame the reasoning for their actions all on me for things I never did.
I do not believe thats correct. Unless somethings changed I am not aware of power tools are not pay by scan, like live goods.
No matter the skin color, some folks need to be handled more severely, some folks only understand a strong hand.
Public canings and floggings would be a great place to start. Bring back or enforce a 3 strikes you are out rule.
- The United States has more people, per capita, in prison than any other country on this planet. The answer is not to just keep building and stocking prisons ad infinitum which has never, and will never, resolve the situation. - The "Three Strike" laws were a step in the right direction except that being sent to prison is no longer a deterrent. For many a return to prison is just a homecoming back to hanging-out with their 'homies'.
- We need to make prison life so draconian and unpleasant that those once released, would rather die than ever return. For some, being in prison is all they know, so some sort of long-term therapy needs to be included to teach them actual marketable skills (life & job) and that there are better ways to live besides being in prison. Employers also need to get on board and employ those that successfully complete prison retraining programs so these people CAN make a meaningful living . . . AND . . . revamp the "Three Strike" laws so that a third-strike automatically ends in immediate execution. Pretty sure than someone that continues to be sent to prison for committing felonies, one after another over time is NOT going to change their ways.
- For those on death-row, there is a higher probability that they will die of old-age before their sentence for execution is ever carried out. Lawyers need to stop withholding vital evidence in order to 'string-out' their clients time, allowing for retrial after retrial after retrial because of some "new" evidence being brought-to-light. Maybe if a few of those attorney's spent a little time in jail themselves, that crap will end. Provide a reasonable amount of time for developments that could change their guilt/innocence status (2-3 years), then carry out the execution as their conviction requires.
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You shouldn’t be in favor of it. It’s the fourth step towards the eventual breakdown of civilization. It’s not the cause, it’s one of the the symptoms. The people who initiated this chain of events don’t care about the safety and welfare of the criminal or the citizens trying to stop them. They only care about power and control. These types of events help them consolidate that power and control.
Everyone in this scenario is a pawn. They allow people like TPD Chief Wendell Franklin to call for concessions from the governed. Concessions that won’t alleviate any of the causes or problems, but will make it easier for them to control us.
The people who think like Chief Franklin are the cause. That type pf thinking is a cancer on society. You can’t beat a cancer by focusing on the symptoms.
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