Here we go - Tulsa public schools to start review of school names..

[JD8]

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

No, you want to argue that the failings of mortal men are the same as Christianity itself when that is far from truth. THe fact is the bible doesn't say its OK to own slaves. The old testament in fact says those owning or buying slaves are to be executed.

The Koran on the other hand states very clearly that slavery is permissible under many circumstances. I will admit that the Koran is highly contradictory on what is and what isn't and when and when it isn't. Nevertheless, it still says it.

In any case my post about Mohammad isn't about Christians and slavery. We already know the Left wants to erase CHristianinty. My point was that if the left wants to erase some one else's heritage because of slavery then they have to look at others heratidge as well. They cant pick and choose what they want to erase (but they will anyway)

Exodus 21:20-21 When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. 21 But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

Lev. 22:11 But if a priest buys a slave as his property for money, the slave may eat of it, and anyone born in his house may eat of his food.

Lev. 19:20 If a man lies sexually with a woman who is a slave, assigned to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, a distinction shall be made. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free

It goes on and on...there are dozens of passages that make it clear that owning slaves was allowed.

 

[caojyn]

if you want to hold Democrats in the same light as recent or current day Republicans because of something Clinton did 30 years go, then bless your heart, more power to ya.

Lol had to

 

[rc508pir]

Exodus 21:20-21 When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. 21 But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

Lev. 22:11 But if a priest buys a slave as his property for money, the slave may eat of it, and anyone born in his house may eat of his food.

Lev. 19:20 If a man lies sexually with a woman who is a slave, assigned to another man and not yet ransomed or given her freedom, a distinction shall be made. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free

It goes on and on...there are dozens of passages that make it clear that owning slaves was allowed.

You're just a spin Dr

 

[deerwhacker444]

You're just a spin Dr

Put him on ignore, save yourself some headache. His sole purpose is to inflame..

 

[rc508pir]

Put him on ignore, save yourself some headache. His sole purpose is to inflame..

Yeah figured that out, unfortunately too late and wasted time on him

 

[sanjuro893]

People all over are having civil, free, discussions on the topic. Removing a statue and putting it in a museum does not stop that nor is it erasing history. Come to my town, drive down jefferson davis drive, pass three or four businesses with "Dixie" in the name. No, you can't drive down 'confederate way' on campus anymore, but you can still follow the road to the confederate cemetery on campus. Not counting the countless flags you still see flying all over this area (including one man who flies his battle flag above the American flag). No, the confederacy is in no danger of being erased or forgotten here.

and these people haven't just 'latched onto the confederacy as a banner', they've been here since the end of the war. They've wielded the flag as a weapon of fear, flown it at cross burnings and waived it the night they rioted to keep a black man out of ole miss. If the good people want to keep the battle flag as a symbol of their heritage, i saw more power to em. But that starts with taking ownership of the symbol and shouting down ones who have latched on. But that hasn't happened.

For some it is their 'heritage' but denying one doesn't make the other less true. Luckily, we're having the conversation at all.

And in terms of Stonewall, by 'positive' you do mean things aside from taking up arms against the united states, right?

Our current state flag has a blue background inspired by the Choctaw flag they flew during the civil war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Oklahoma

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

You're just a spin Dr

Spin, by using actually facts, and quotes from the bible? Okay, then.

 

[caojyn]

Our current state flag has a blue background inspired by the Choctaw flag they flew during the civil war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Oklahoma

This the one?

 

[sanjuro893]

This the one?

Yup. Still flown by the tribe and the sons of confederate vets.