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What I find odd is the fact that it seems no one is taking in consideration the "Natural Immunity" factor of all the people who have already had Covid19 and recovered. It seems these are the safest people to be around and everyone would want them for employees. If they have totally recovered, they are not spreading the virus. If they are totally recovered I have heard of very few cases where they contacted the virus again and would stay very healthy. But yet they are suceptable to being fired from their jobs for not taking the jab that is now way more dangerous to their health than walking into a Covid ward in a hospital without a mask licking their fingers. Something does not seem right here.
 

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If Covid were as deadly as they tried to play it up as I might consider the vaccination, but it's not only not a fatal, but the Gov. continuously bears false witness regarding "their" facts which kinda makes that a Double NO!
Why would OUR OWN GOVERNMENT DO THAT? IF THAT IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE SCARED OF, WHAT WOULD BE?
 

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My sons entire squad got Moderna they had insomnia for close to 10 days, they weren’t forced to take it just being good Marines I guess.
Wife got Moderna. She had horrible flu-like reactions to the first that put her on the couch for two days. Milder but still present for the second. I've had all three Pfizer vaccinations with zero side effects. I supposed that's to be expected since it seems to be the least effect of them. I've also got an ironclad immune system and rarely get sick.
 

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In Dr Ralph's symposium about how his team designed covid, he says the people living around the bat caves from which they got the sars corona viruses all tested positive for neutralizing antibodies.

so he at least knows natural immunity is a thing.

but he didn't know about moderna's "secret" mrna vaccine they were already years in the works for.
https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/13/moderna-therapeutics-biotech-mrna/
>The most revolutionary treatments, which could challenge the multibillion-dollar market for protein therapy, would involve repeated doses of mRNA over many years, so a patient’s body continued to produce proteins to keep disease at bay.

>But Moderna’s first human trials aren’t so ambitious, focusing instead on the crowded field of vaccines, where the company has only been working since 2014.

>First are the two vaccine trials for **undisclosed infectious diseases.**

>They work better if they’re wrapped up in a delivery mechanism, such as nanoparticles made of lipids. But those nanoparticles can lead to dangerous side effects, especially if a patient has to take repeated doses over months or years.
>“I would say that mRNA is better suited for diseases where treatment for short duration is sufficiently curative, so the toxicities caused by delivery materials are less likely to occur,” said Katalin Karikó, a pioneer in the field who serves as a vice president at BioNTech.

the vaccine that would have NEVER been approved otherwise is now a part of life. and they have all the legal protection they need. the vaccine targets natural antibodies. you can find many articles from 2016-2017 about moderna's "undisclosed" and "secret" vaccine.

why would you make a vaccine.....for a secret virus?
 

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What I find odd is the fact that it seems no one is taking in consideration the "Natural Immunity" factor of all the people who have already had Covid19 and recovered. It seems these are the safest people to be around and everyone would want them for employees. If they have totally recovered, they are not spreading the virus. If they are totally recovered I have heard of very few cases where they contacted the virus again and would stay very healthy. But yet they are suceptable to being fired from their jobs for not taking the jab that is now way more dangerous to their health than walking into a Covid ward in a hospital without a mask licking their fingers. Something does not seem right here.
It's difficult to believe anything you read about COVID these days but I have read that the antibodies produced by the immune systems of those who have recovered do not provide the lifetime immunity we are used to, e.g. chicken pox. They have tested antibody levels and they report that they do diminish over time. Thus even those who have recovered may be at risk for reinfection although it is my belief that it will be similar to a breakthrough infection in a vaccinated individual with symptoms not requiring hospitalization. So hard to separate the real from the BS. What I do know is that COVID is real and for those in higher risk populations your chances of being in that 2% fatality rate grow astronomically. Funny thing, though. Why all the hype for a disease that is 98% survivable?
 

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What I find odd is the fact that it seems no one is taking in consideration the "Natural Immunity" factor of all the people who have already had Covid19 and recovered. It seems these are the safest people to be around and everyone would want them for employees. If they have totally recovered, they are not spreading the virus. If they are totally recovered I have heard of very few cases where they contacted the virus again and would stay very healthy. But yet they are suceptable to being fired from their jobs for not taking the jab that is now way more dangerous to their health than walking into a Covid ward in a hospital without a mask licking their fingers. Something does not seem right here.
Two guys I hang out with have NI. I feel much safer.
 

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It's difficult to believe anything you read about COVID these days but I have read that the antibodies produced by the immune systems of those who have recovered do not provide the lifetime immunity we are used to, e.g. chicken pox. They have tested antibody levels and they report that they do diminish over time. Thus even those who have recovered may be at risk for reinfection although it is my belief that it will be similar to a breakthrough infection in a vaccinated individual with symptoms not requiring hospitalization. So hard to separate the real from the BS. What I do know is that COVID is real and for those in higher risk populations your chances of being in that 2% fatality rate grow astronomically. Funny thing, though. Why all the hype for a disease that is 98% survivable?
There’s much more to it than just antibodies. You can still have continued immunity without antibodies the way I understand it.
 

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What I find odd is the fact that it seems no one is taking in consideration the "Natural Immunity" factor of all the people who have already had Covid19 and recovered. It seems these are the safest people to be around and everyone would want them for employees. If they have totally recovered, they are not spreading the virus. If they are totally recovered I have heard of very few cases where they contacted the virus again and would stay very healthy. But yet they are suceptable to being fired from their jobs for not taking the jab that is now way more dangerous to their health than walking into a Covid ward in a hospital without a mask licking their fingers. Something does not seem right here.
https://www.projectveritas.com/news...ies-are-probably-better-than-the-vaccination/
 

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