Oklahoma Uninsured Vehicle Enforcement Diversion Program Letter

[38Super]

Impound the vehicles ! No insurance, impound it !

That would clear this crap up in 6 months.

That and expired tags over 30 days old. If you cant afford the tag or insurance, you can't afford to drive. Sounds Harsh but.............. nothing pisses me off more than to still see a paper tag on a $50k vehicle that is 60 days old. If you bought the car, you can buy the tag. if not, don't get the car.

 

[Rustytigwire]

Many who have and or provide the credit also have no credability.

 

[1shott]

That and expired tags over 30 days old. If you cant afford the tag or insurance, you can't afford to drive. Sounds Harsh but.............. nothing pisses me off more than to still see a paper tag on a $50k vehicle that is 60 days old. If you bought the car, you can buy the tag. if not, don't get the car.

Agreed. I am seeing a lot of paper tags over 6 months old, how they get away with it is beyond me.

 

[turkeyrun]

The cameras are mounted on the traffic lights, in Lawton.

My daughter got a notice, just before Christmas. Policy was too expire on 16th. She paid premium on 12th. Agent didn't update record. Said it wasn't their job to validate the offense with the State.

Sent copies of the renewal, with the notice and State cleared it.

Contacted insurance company and filed complaint on agent, told them she was changing companies. They didn't show much caring, then found out they lost her account, her daughter and husband account, her son account, both of my vehicles and both houses.
They tried to redo policies, claiming preferred customer status.
Told them to pound sand. Then called the agent and told her.

Inflation, shrinking treasuries will create more and more of the money making scams for cities and State.

 

[1shott]

They cameras are mounted on the traffic lights, in Lawton.

My daughter got a notice, just before Christmas. Policy was too expire on 16th. She paid premium on 12th. Agent didn't update record. Said it wasn't their job to validate the offense with the State.

Sent copies of the renewal, with the notice and State cleared it.

Contacted insurance company and filed complaint on agent, told them she was changing companies. They didn't show much caring, then found out they lost her account, her daughter and husband account, her son account, both of my vehicles and both houses.
They tried to redo policies, claiming preferred customer status.
Told them to pound sand. Then called the agent and told her.

Inflation, shrinking treasuries will create more and mote of the money making scams for cities and State.

The agent I use screwed up my auto policy. I sold one vehicle, purchased another. Should have been a simple change right? Ha no way, took me over a month to get everything right, and that was only after calling the agent office and telling them I am changing companies due to their in ability to do a simple task, well what do you know they got it fixed pretty damn fast at that point.

Its nuts out there

 

[TerryMiller]

Agreed. I am seeing a lot of paper tags over 6 months old, how they get away with it is beyond me.

Believe it or not, some "new owners" have reason to keep getting paper tags. It appears that when one buys a used vehicle from Carvana, they might not get a title very fast. Carvana has been buying stolen cars or have been unwilling or unable to get titles changed on legitimate cars that they buy. In such cases, the Carvana dealership just keeps providing a "new" paper tag until the titles come through. One guy in another state went 11 months before finally getting a title for his Carvana purchase.

 

[Snattlerake]

They cameras are mounted on the traffic lights, in Lawton.

My daughter got a notice, just before Christmas. Policy was too expire on 16th. She paid premium on 12th. Agent didn't update record. Said it wasn't their job to validate the offense with the State.

Sent copies of the renewal, with the notice and State cleared it.

Contacted insurance company and filed complaint on agent, told them she was changing companies. They didn't show much caring, then found out they lost her account, her daughter and husband account, her son account, both of my vehicles and both houses.
They tried to redo policies, claiming preferred customer status.
Told them to pound sand. Then called the agent and told her.

Inflation, shrinking treasuries will create more and more of the money making scams for cities and State.

I had a similar row with State Farm. I was with them over 20 years and they kept hiking their rates with no claims from me. I shopped around and gave State Farm a chance to beat it and they declined. They had been calling me every 3 months trying to get me back. I finally told them to never call again and put me down as NIH, Not Interested, Hostile. I haven't heard from them since.

 

[1shott]

Believe it or not, some "new owners" have reason to keep getting paper tags. It appears that when one buys a used vehicle from Carvana, they might not get a title very fast. Carvana has been buying stolen cars or have been unwilling or unable to get titles changed on legitimate cars that they buy. In such cases, the Carvana dealership just keeps providing a "new" paper tag until the titles come through. One guy in another state went 11 months before finally getting a title for his Carvana purchase.

Most of the vehicles I have seen with out of date temp tags have been from actual car new car dealers and a few national chains of used car dealers.

I have heard about the carvana mess, that would truly suck.

 

[SoonerP226]

Most of the vehicles I have seen with out of date temp tags have been from actual car new car dealers and a few national chains of used car dealers.

I have heard about the carvana mess, that would truly suck.

I haven't been following the Carvana tales of woe directly, but Steve Lehto has covered a few of them on his YouTube channel, and those have sure sounded like big messes. Carvana delivering the wrong car, or at least not the car that was purchased, is apparently not unheard of, and I recall a recent story where they sold someone a car that turned out to be stolen. Yikes.

Anyhow, if Carvana has to keep sending you paper tags, they shouldn't be expired, so that wouldn't explain the ones that are running around that are expired. I just saw one this week that expired in January, and, IIRC, it was from a decent-sized dealership and on a not-inexpensive car...

 

[TerryMiller]

Most of the vehicles I have seen with out of date temp tags have been from actual car new car dealers and a few national chains of used car dealers.

I have heard about the carvana mess, that would truly suck.

I haven't been following the Carvana tales of woe directly, but Steve Lehto has covered a few of them on his YouTube channel, and those have sure sounded like big messes. Carvana delivering the wrong car, or at least not the car that was purchased, is apparently not unheard of, and I recall a recent story where they sold someone a car that turned out to be stolen. Yikes.

Anyhow, if Carvana has to keep sending you paper tags, they shouldn't be expired, so that wouldn't explain the ones that are running around that are expired. I just saw one this week that expired in January, and, IIRC, it was from a decent-sized dealership and on a not-inexpensive car...

Yes. I'm aware that most of the out-of-date temporary tags are from regular dealers. I mentioned the Carvana deal because they seem to be the primary ones to keep issuing temporary tags. I guess I partly mentioned it so that folks would be very cautious if they were thinking of buying from Carvana.

Another thing with temporary tags. When we retired, we took the RV to Colorado and lived there for 20 months. We had established residency, so we had to register our vehicles in Colorado. We traded vehicles so that the wife would have 4WD if needed, but we bought it in Oklahoma. I was later given a parking ticket in Colorado Springs and the ticket lady told me my tag was expired. I had to point it out to her on the paper tag that it stated "Buy Date" and not "Expiration Date." Colorado's temporary tags have an expiration date, although their timing from purchase to being in the wrong is 45 days instead of 30 days like it is in Oklahoma.