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You like Volks?

They are really twitchy...heck, they're down over 3% in the 24hours since you posted...

And look at it now. Obviously you don't understand the market.



Dennis, where did you go?

I think you're right - I may not understand the market, this last year doesn't show 'twitchy' as much as 'dying' so I guess I'm still needing your help reading the VLKAF chart, lol


Please help me understand.


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Narrow that down to a month, and get back with me. I've never heard of anybody with business acumen call a stock twitchy, but your the "expert" at this game evidently in your own mind because you like to criticize other peoples choice of investment. BTW I never recommended the stock. I said to take a look at it. The choice is left to the looker to buy or not buy considering the stock, where its at, and why its where it is at the time. Big difference.

I like to invest in distressed companies that lose stock price. Get in, get out when it makes an upturn. Take the money and run. Profit on the misfortune if one wants to look at it that way. That's the stock market as I play it. Everybody has their individual way to play they think will work for them.

I'm up $15.71 per share as of the close Friday. With the money invested, that's not a bad short term investment.

If it reaches a stagnant level in the next few weeks, its time to get out and look around.

I've retired early very comfortably with my choices and decisions, so its worked for me.

How about backing off your aggressive attitude, and contributing to the forum with suggestions, and constructive criticism to enhance the forum in general vs having the know-it-all attitude you exhibit, and criticizing people that don't know your investment strategies.
Put them out there. Maybe we can learn from each other?
 
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...but your the "expert" at this game...

*you're


Anyway, my mistake...."look at 1 month".

So, out of any possible term, the only range that shows any positive outcome for VLKAF is the one you were referring to earlier?

Didn't know you were advocating a 'day-trader' approach for this Investment thread.



Sounds like you've got the Market figured out; I'll assume you're very Wealthy with all that knowledge!

Got any more hot stock tips?
 

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*you're


Anyway, my mistake...."look at 1 month".

So, out of any possible term, the only range that shows any positive outcome for VLKAF is the one you were referring to earlier?

Didn't know you were advocating a 'day-trader' approach for this Investment thread.



Sounds like you've got the Market figured out; I'll assume you're very Wealthy with all that knowledge!

Got any more hot stock tips?

I've always found that when someone turns into a grammar Nazi, they recognize they have lost the argument. How about read my last comment one more time, and think about it some. Really think about it.

Why would you criticize anyone's investment strategy? You didn't question me about my strategy. You put yours into mine and yours would be a loser. Mine is a winner.
That's just my strategy. Why would you criticize it? Your not making any sense?
 
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Not a licensed investment advisor. That's why I said to look at volkswagon, and didn't advise anything else.

Look at the history of Smith Tool from the 80's to the current day with the bankruptcy's, splits, sale of Smith to Schlumbergers to current stock prices. My only long term investment. Retirement is really great. Thank you stock market.

Any other questions?
 

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VALKF is way too volatile for me considering the fundamentals. I'd have to invest a LOT of capital and be really nimble.

I'll say again what I said before. I have no genius picks to relay, only that a number of great stocks have been beaten down and there are opportunities if you have a really long term scope. I'm out on short term until we get a new president. Either way, personally, since this thread started I've been doubling down on LMT, BA, DIS, MO, NFLX and a few others. I did get a little risky on FCX because I was down significantly in it but after it hit 4 and went back up I started buying again. Then gold started rallying. Good move? We will see. I also took a position in AA because it was just too cheap, in which they are tied to the aircraft and auto industry heavily so I will take awhile for it to move IMO.

This market is full of overbought and oversold stocks and there's not a lot of fundamentals that pump me full of sunshine, not to mention the economy.
 

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Sadly, company fundamentals matter less now than probably at any time in history.

Since 2008/2009, the share price in our equity markets seem to have decoupled from individual companies' health. Sectors rise and fall together and these fluctuations are more tied to geopolitical activity than to whether or not individual companies are doing clever things to make money. For the last 7/8 years, equity sectors' cyclical rise and fall has been tied to:

1. Federal Reserve moves: Quantitative Easing, zero interest rates and the pumping of make-believe money into banks
2. European economies: EC countries teetering on bankruptcy from unchecked socialism and Germany's ability to prevent these bankruptcies
3. China's economic health: As (seemingly) the only country with cash in the world, as China's economy rises and falls, we go with it

Do I invest in US equities in this climate? Sure. But, the old methods of weighing companies' fundamentals to predict future growth is out the window. The new measure that works best is to predict the companies that best get help from the Oval Office.

Is this rational? No. But, as a wise man once said: "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay liquid". Approach investments these days with great caution. That's my $.02.
 

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Sadly, company fundamentals matter less now than probably at any time in history.

Since 2008/2009, the share price in our equity markets seem to have decoupled from individual companies' health. Sectors rise and fall together and these fluctuations are more tied to geopolitical activity than to whether or not individual companies are doing clever things to make money. For the last 7/8 years, equity sectors' cyclical rise and fall has been tied to:

1. Federal Reserve moves: Quantitative Easing, zero interest rates and the pumping of make-believe money into banks
2. European economies: EC countries teetering on bankruptcy from unchecked socialism and Germany's ability to prevent these bankruptcies
3. China's economic health: As (seemingly) the only country with cash in the world, as China's economy rises and falls, we go with it

Do I invest in US equities in this climate? Sure. But, the old methods of weighing companies' fundamentals to predict future growth is out the window. The new measure that works best is to predict the companies that best get help from the Oval Office.

Is this rational? No. But, as a wise man once said: "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay liquid". Approach investments these days with great caution. That's my $.02.

You might look at Northrup Grumman (NOC) for an individual stock. They are stable, get lots of government money and just won a contract to build some kind of new plane.
 

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Sadly, company fundamentals matter less now than probably at any time in history.

Since 2008/2009, the share price in our equity markets seem to have decoupled from individual companies' health. Sectors rise and fall together and these fluctuations are more tied to geopolitical activity than to whether or not individual companies are doing clever things to make money. For the last 7/8 years, equity sectors' cyclical rise and fall has been tied to:

1. Federal Reserve moves: Quantitative Easing, zero interest rates and the pumping of make-believe money into banks
2. European economies: EC countries teetering on bankruptcy from unchecked socialism and Germany's ability to prevent these bankruptcies
3. China's economic health: As (seemingly) the only country with cash in the world, as China's economy rises and falls, we go with it

Do I invest in US equities in this climate? Sure. But, the old methods of weighing companies' fundamentals to predict future growth is out the window. The new measure that works best is to predict the companies that best get help from the Oval Office.

Is this rational? No. But, as a wise man once said: "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay liquid". Approach investments these days with great caution. That's my $.02.


Gonna agree on all accounts here. All I can do is try to pick certain stocks within certain sectors in terms of their exposure to these aspects and the price of oil, be it rational or not.

He'll never recognize it or come close to admitting it. Some people are just never wrong! lmao. Bless his heart.

You never did relay your S&P stock that was so much more stable than the housing market. Granted OKCShooter can be an azz, so can I, but I don't see where he's wrong here. When people are making claims, some transparency on what people are investing in would be nice. I believe it would help those wanting to dip their toe into investing to relay a bit of reality.
 

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