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Tanis143

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There is already evidence that there will be long term effects ---
https://www.healthline.com/health-n...covid-19#COVID-19-might-affect-the-brain-stem
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-long-term-effects-on-the-body_l_5e9a0017c5b6ea335d5b3cf3

Even Fox News has published articles cautiously warning of long term effects:
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-mi...s-lasting-damage-ventilators-lung-scar-tissue




That wasn't an attempt to project that as your belief, but the initial statement still does make an interesting point for the question. What would the crisis look like if we as a country had better safety nets in place? That doesn't mean create a permanent dependent class, but if we had something as simple as paid sick time requirements so that sick people would stay home, would that help. If we had systems in place designed to assure food and nutrition in the case of a crisis would that ease the burden on folks. If there were programs to prevent repos and foreclosures in cases like this, how much would it help folks?

Interestingly the first major attempt to plan for it was the Bush administration, so it's not even like it's a partisan thing. My prediction is that this will not be the last pandemic we see. The risk has always been present, and it will continue to be more and more of a danger as world population increases.

I never denied that there could be long term effects, I was stating that the large majority of people do not suffer those effects. As I said, most people suffer flu like symptoms as the virus runs its course, and then they get better, just like influenza.

And, what would the country be like if all those programs were in place? People would be paying out the arse in taxes just like other countries. Why do you think we get people who immigrate from the UK, Switzerland, etc? They are tired of paying those high taxes. All those services are not free, someone has to pay for it. I would rather take my hard earned money, sock back some, then use it for myself when the need comes. Sorry, but I'm a bit selfish that way. And I'm well sick and tired of people telling me I need to think about other people. Why? Can't they think for themselves? Are they not able to make the cognitive decision "Hey, I have asthma, maybe I should take precautions and either not go outside or wear gloves (properly) and a mask"? Why must I, and many others, suffer to ease the burden of them? That may sound heartless, but guess what, thats life. I should not be held responsible for someone else's decisions.
 

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Don't see the media flinging poo LOL? Is that satire? I'm honestly surprised if this is how you truly feel.

First, I invite you to find a headliner on CNN, CBS, MSNBC talking about anything I just mentioned. The ONLY thing they will mention is something bashing CHQ at best. Notice they don't talk about Vent shortages anymore?

Then, by all means watch the evening news. My wife watches it and it's more of the same. Not one mention of anything remotely factual pertaining to progress on treatments, IF they mention treatments at all. You know those plasma transfusions? First one here was done at her hospital, it got a brief story locally, and again then more Trump bashing concerning CHQ. She *****es about it, and I remind her that she can turn it off?

Finally, consider his news conferences, you've completely lost your mind or don't watch them. He let's his whole panel speak frequently and often. I watch them most of the time and I honestly don't know how you could come to your conclusions? If Trump doesn't act like a bulldog up there, the media would run right over him. That's a fact.

I really shouldn't have to remind you of this....

....but, Iggy is a troll.
 

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Finally, consider his news conferences, you've completely lost your mind or don't watch them. He let's his whole panel speak frequently and often. I watch them most of the time and I honestly don't know how you could come to your conclusions? If Trump doesn't act like a bulldog up there, the media would run right over him. That's a fact.

Serious question ... who is carrying them in their entirety? I'm on an antenna, so I don't get all them fancy channels. The best I see is on the local news out of OKC when they will break in to their newscast for just a few minutes ... then pull out of the briefing and go back to their so called 'news.'


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Serious question ... who is carrying them in their entirety? I'm on an antenna, so I don't get all them fancy channels. The best I see is on the local news out of OKC when they will break in to their newscast for just a few minutes ... then pull out of the briefing and go back to their so called 'news.'


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I have been able to watch them on 5-2 KOCO-ME TV.
 

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Serious question ... who is carrying them in their entirety? I'm on an antenna, so I don't get all them fancy channels. The best I see is on the local news out of OKC when they will break in to their newscast for just a few minutes ... then pull out of the briefing and go back to their so called 'news.'


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I get them off FB feeds.
 

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Here is the President’s off-the-cuff statement about disinfectants and sunlight. Go to 16:00. It appears sound bites have been taken out of context and magnified and twisted by commentators . Who could have ever guessed that this sort of distortion would be done?!?
 

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That was ridiculous. I'm sorry, Trump needs to stay out of anything to do with medical recommendation or discussion of treatment or investigation. God****, what a dumb****.

I despair that this is the best we have? It's either morons or socialist powergrabs? These are our only options???? REALLY? We can't field a viable candidate who can do better than this???

F*** me.

<edit> And I'm sorry, anyone trying to claim he was being sarcastic is full of s*** too.

This whole country is F***ED. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but we're F***ED.
 

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I despair that this is the best we have? It's either morons or socialist powergrabs? These are our only options???? REALLY? We can't field a viable candidate who can do better than this???

Reminds me of the quote:
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”― H.L. Mencken

There were so many better options that could have secured the nominations, but I really think people look at Trump and think that he represents them --- with all that entails. He gets passes on stuff because he says what they think in the manner they think it. Sure, most of it is not what a leader or subject matter expert might say but those folks are neither as well.
 

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