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i just find it funny people think the oklahoma government is running basically an illegal drug operation, and assuming they weren't before.

the cia has ran the world drug market for....well since it existed. it's just more in the open now.
so how long were you in the cia?
 

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i just find it funny people think the oklahoma government is running basically an illegal drug operation, and assuming they weren't before.

the cia has ran the world drug market for....well since it existed. it's just more in the open now.
Except that the police can lie to you, it's for your own safety. Rules for thee but not for me.
 

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so how long were you in the cia?
you already know the answer to that question, and why would you ever assume someone working for the cia would have any more knowledge than someone who isn't?

are you saying, right now, i can't give you demonstrable proof of the cia running *multiple* drug programs?
 

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you already know the answer to that question, and why would you ever assume someone working for the cia would have any more knowledge than someone who isn't?

are you saying, right now, i can't give you demonstrable proof of the cia running *multiple* drug programs?
pretty much....
 

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so just to be clear:

you are claiming the CIA has *never* ran drug operations before, and you claim it is not running drug operations now?
I'm not claiming anything. You are the one doing all the claiming.....but not showing any documentable evidence or legitimate proof....

you know, just to be clear.
 

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https://ips-dc.org/the_cia_contras_gangs_and_crack/
feel free to investigate these claims, trust me there are plenty of books, documentaries, documents, foia, all sorts of stuff you can easily find on this subject. this was the easiest and simplest timeline, if i gave you entire books to read you wouldn't do it, but now you'll say "lol this isn't proof".

https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/archive/special/9712/ch01p1.htm
everyone knows the cia ran everything from MK Ultra to more recently to Operation Cyclone and it's successor Timber Sycamore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
Operation Cyclone was one of the longest and most expensive covert CIA operations ever undertaken.[2] Funding officially began with $695,000 in mid-1979,[3][4] was increased dramatically to $20–$30 million per year in 1980, and rose to $630 million per year in 1987,[1][5][6] described as the "biggest bequest to any Third World insurgency".[7]

oh yeah, totally just guns, weapons, and training. no drugs involved, nope no way. i mean not like these guys will have the largest supply of opioids in the world, after the last place the US fought a war in had.....the largest supply of opioids in the world.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore
oh yeah, but trust us, it was just *guns, weapons, and training*, and the us *totally only got cash*, there were no narcotics involved. i mean, *do you have proof the government has provided weapons and training for drugs in the past?!*

oh yeah, then of course there's this:

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/images/3-waves-2019.PNG
are you suggesting the CIA never did any of this, none of these programs were real, and because there's no proof of secret programs being ran today that must mean none exist?

are you suggesting the pattern of our government paying "rebels" with weapons and training so they will cause instability in their region in exchange for drugs isn't how our foreign policy operates? are you suggesting we didn't fight a 20 year war for drugs and basically drugs alone? are you suggesting this hasn't been the us policy for decades and maybe you failed to ever realize it?

hell, Operation Gladio ran officially for over 30 years and involved drug smuggling from West Africa into not just the US but basically all of Europe.
 
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https://ips-dc.org/the_cia_contras_gangs_and_crack/
feel free to investigate these claims, trust me there are plenty of books, documentaries, documents, foia, all sorts of stuff you can easily find on this subject. this was the easiest and simplest timeline, if i gave you entire books to read you wouldn't do it, but now you'll say "lol this isn't proof".

https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/archive/special/9712/ch01p1.htm
everyone knows the cia ran everything from MK Ultra to more recently to Operation Cyclone and it's successor Timber Sycamore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
Operation Cyclone was one of the longest and most expensive covert CIA operations ever undertaken.[2] Funding officially began with $695,000 in mid-1979,[3][4] was increased dramatically to $20–$30 million per year in 1980, and rose to $630 million per year in 1987,[1][5][6] described as the "biggest bequest to any Third World insurgency".[7]

oh yeah, totally just guns, weapons, and training. no drugs involved, nope no way. i mean not like these guys will have the largest supply of opioids in the world, after the last place the US fought a war in had.....the largest supply of opioids in the world.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore
oh yeah, but trust us, it was just *guns, weapons, and training*, and the us *totally only got cash*, there were no narcotics involved. i mean, *do you have proof the government has provided weapons and training for drugs in the past?!*

oh yeah, then of course there's this:

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/images/3-waves-2019.PNG
are you suggesting the CIA never did any of this, none of these programs were real, and because there's no proof of secret programs being ran today that must mean none exist?

are you suggesting the pattern of our government paying "rebels" with weapons and training so they will cause instability in their region in exchange for drugs isn't how our foreign policy operates? are you suggesting we didn't fight a 20 year war for drugs and basically drugs alone? are you suggesting this hasn't been the us policy for decades and maybe you failed to ever realize it?

hell, Operation Gladio ran officially for over 30 years and involved drug smuggling from West Africa into not just the US but basically all of Europe.
I'm really not surprised what all the CIA might be doing....so, what is your point?
 

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Has anyone ever seen anything actually fixed that is run by state, federal government? I've worked for the county, state and federal government and know first hand how things are done.

I don't know about "fixed," but I used to say that government never did anything to "make a profit." Then it was pointed out to me that the Tennessee Valley Authority did make a profit with the generation of electricity using dams and hydroelectric facilities.
 

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The only profit the federal government makes is to keep in touch with us.... They take our tax dollars and give it to nations and entities that hate us and then they make a "round robin" trip back to us for more money to give and buy votes. Overall, we have no say so in the matter because our government (congress) doesn't work for us, they are working against us! Even now Schumer is trying to pass a bill that would give illegals the right to vote-we knew it was coming but not as quickly as the current bill they are working on. And here is the way our representative "represent us..."

ktrh.iheart.com › featured › michael-berryHouse Democrats Vote To Give Illegals $16 Billion In ...stimulus checks​

 

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