Getting a companion dog to take hunting

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I'll add 2 cents about search and rescue: I was thinking of getting into that several years ago. Took my dog to K9 University on NW Exp to have him evaluated; they said he had the nose for it.
Then they started telling me about the process to get certified. It's quite extensive and expensive. I would have had to get training in evidence preservation, on site trauma treatment, and so forth.
Then there's the dog training.

Bottom line, once fully trained you might get a call in the middle of the night during a storm, they'll give you a map and ask you to cover a section of land, maybe way out in the boonies, in the dark, in the rain, in the cold, crossing streams, rocks, whatever.

I decided I was too old for that, and didn't want to make the time and financial commitment.

Maybe there are other programs not so intensive, I don't know.

Something to consider, I'm sure it can be very rewarding.
You’re very right, that sorta thing can be rough. But I cannot stand hugging homeless people or working in a soup kitchen. I’ve even done work with habitat for humanity building homes for a while, didn’t really tickle my fancy. Search and rescue, or disaster response, sounds more like my cup of tea, and I feel strongly about volunteering my time I figure between volunteering locally, as well as signing up with project rubicon, I should be able to put a little time in and help out. I have a limited amount of training in several different aspects, and have been on my fair share of crime scenes. Hopefully it goes easily and I can make a positive contribution. Once I get a few things in my life in order I plan on signing up for some classes/training and seeing what happens. Maybe I can get fully trained before I have to worry about training a puppy.
 

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So I finally hit in touch with a breeder, talked for a while with the guy, and I have a few concerns. The gentleman has had 2 failed breedings with the same dam recently, and will be trying again soon. Sounds like her and the sire are older dogs. The new sire this time around is younger, but has some sort of asymmetry in his back legs. No risk of hip displaysia, just a little asymmetry. The breeder says that because of difficulties and the asymmetry he is putting a breeding restriction on the litter. I don’t plan on breeding my dog, but this has me concerned. Should I be?
 

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That would give me some pause. My vote has always been, go with a breeder who is 100% focused on the betterment of the breed, OR go with a shelter dog.
 

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So I finally hit in touch with a breeder, talked for a while with the guy, and I have a few concerns. The gentleman has had 2 failed breedings with the same dam recently, and will be trying again soon. Sounds like her and the sire are older dogs. The new sire this time around is younger, but has some sort of asymmetry in his back legs. No risk of hip displaysia, just a little asymmetry. The breeder says that because of difficulties and the asymmetry he is putting a breeding restriction on the litter. I don’t plan on breeding my dog, but this has me concerned. Should I be?
Any defect in the parent(s) can be more or less advanced in the offspring. Genetics are kinda like physics, you're pretty much stuck with 'em.

Just my 2¢, but I'd keep looking.
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So I finally hit in touch with a breeder, talked for a while with the guy, and I have a few concerns. The gentleman has had 2 failed breedings with the same dam recently, and will be trying again soon. Sounds like her and the sire are older dogs. The new sire this time around is younger, but has some sort of asymmetry in his back legs. No risk of hip displaysia, just a little asymmetry. The breeder says that because of difficulties and the asymmetry he is putting a breeding restriction on the litter. I don’t plan on breeding my dog, but this has me concerned. Should I be?
I can’t say there’d be a problem with the pup, but there’s no way I’d follow through with that breeder.
 

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That would give me some pause. My vote has always been, go with a breeder who is 100% focused on the betterment of the breed, OR go with a shelter dog.
That’s what I am saying. He was saying that keeping a breeding restriction on the litter is because of his concern for the betterment of the breed, but unless you’re just trying to make cash, why do it in the first place?? I liked the guy, but what he is doing really put a bad taste in my mouth.
 

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That’s what I am saying. He was saying that keeping a breeding restriction on the litter is because of his concern for the betterment of the breed, but unless you’re just trying to make cash, why do it in the first place?? I liked the guy, but what he is doing really put a bad taste in my mouth.
I agree. The breeder of our golden also restricted registration, but not because he was afraid of some defect being passed forward. Concern was controlling the bloodlines, which I respect.
 

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Any defect in the parent(s) can be more or less advanced in the offspring. Genetics are kinda like physics, you're pretty much stuck with 'em.

Just my 2¢, but I'd keep looking.
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I can’t say there’d be a problem with the pup, but there’s no way I’d follow through with that breeder.

yeah, the more I think about it the more I have zero desire to go through with it. The guy wants $1500 for a puppy he is willingly breeding some sort of issue into.

only downside is that now I am pretty sure I’m out of Wirehair pointing griffon breeders in Oklahoma. Next closest is central Colorado and Idaho. I am not sure about the Colorado breeder either because one of the dams has almost blonde spots, which is from what I’m guessing to be some sort of inbreeding. Looks like I may be making 3 trips to Idaho, if I find the conversation to be fruitful.
 

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I agree. The breeder of our golden also restricted registration, but not because he was afraid of some defect being passed forward. Concern was controlling the bloodlines, which I respect.
I can understand that with goldens, too many people are overbreeding them and you end up with all sorts of weird variations. We were scared with the girlfriends golden, he was growing so fast, I was afraid she spent over a grand on some 120lb overgrown house golden retriever with bad breeding. But thankfully he stopped growing and is just a really stout top of breed standard sizing. We also didn’t neuter him until 11 months, and I’m sure hormones had something to do with it.
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