I just wanted to point out that some folks should not get upset about the veto, but think it is fine for our neighbor to decide if we should own a gun.
How do you go about discouraging someone from getting a gun/permit?
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The way I read tR's first post was that he did not believe she should have a gun. I didn't see anything in there that said she shouldn't have the right to own one. And I don't think he meant to imply that at all. All too often, many of us here look to see how we can attack the person posting here. Let's not get wrapped around the axle over this...we have a long time, solid member here posting what I think is a legitimate question about a serious issue. I say let's give him our opinions and not levy judgment on him over how he worded it.
On Friday, my students were taking their AP US History Test. I took them snacks and orange drinks before the test. I always wear a suit on important days for the students. I think it is important for them to know I understand how important their success is to them. When I wear a tie, I always wear my grandfather's tie pin. He wore it when he got married, graduated from OSU, and when he went in for his first job interview.
He has me on ignore anyway.
My best advice is something others have already voiced, tell her politely that “while you have every right to pursue that to whatever end you see fit, I am not comfortable assisting you with it in any way.” She will almost certainly inquire about the reason and you can then explain, or not, to your heart’s content.
I have hesitated to weigh in on this... :/
Back in the late '90s my Dad developed Alzheimer's, and it went south pretty quick. He stayed with my sister for a while, then wanted to stay with us. So we brought him up here. He was 82 or 83.
We were sitting at the kitchen table, looking outside through the patio doors, when he asked for a gun. He then said, "There are at least 5 or 6 government men outside that I know of, right now."
He grew up helping his Dad make 'shine and beer during prohibition. Needless to say, I didn't give him a gun.
My point (if there is one?) is that common sense should prevail in all aspects of life.
I don't have all the answers (I don't even have all the questions). Carry on.
Back in the late '90s my Dad developed Alzheimer's, and it went south pretty quick. He stayed with my sister for a while, then wanted to stay with us. So we brought him up here. He was 82 or 83.
We were sitting at the kitchen table, looking outside through the patio doors, when he asked for a gun. He then said, "There are at least 5 or 6 government men outside that I know of, right now."
He grew up helping his Dad make 'shine and beer during prohibition. Needless to say, I didn't give him a gun.
My point (if there is one?) is that common sense should prevail in all aspects of life.
I don't have all the answers (I don't even have all the questions). Carry on.
Funny stuff here. Even though I have several idiots on this place on /i, I am pretty sure I can figure out the s4|t they are saying from the responses I can see.
Get it straight, morons, I never said anywhere it should be illegal for her to have a gun. It's not my place, to take it away, NOR is it my place to train her - I'm not going to do it. I don't believe she should have one, because, as I said at the outset, this woman has neither capability NOR the mindset to use a firearm properly in self-defense, and she also doesn't have the mindset to obtain the training to physically or mentally learn how to do so. I say this because I KNOW the woman - you don't. I KNOW what she WILL do, and what she WON'T do. Her problem isn't just frailty, it's also her refusal to help herself. Ever.
So crawl back under the bridge. You can make me out to be the bad guy all you want, or you can just f*** off.
<edit> And as for feeling bad about her situation, I long ago washed my hands of feeling responsible for the consequences of others' actions. We have done lots to try to help her, and we still include her in family gatherings, we go out of our way to pick her up, make special trips to come get her for various things, and in general take her out and get her some fresh air - since she refuses to do so herself - and she is PLENTY capable of it.
We used to pick up some milk or eggs for her here and there, but I've finally drawn the line at the long-ass shopping list she wants to give us, and wants to know when we're going to Sam's or Costco so I can load up a pallet of **** to bring to her. lol. Yeah, it's like that.
Get it straight, morons, I never said anywhere it should be illegal for her to have a gun. It's not my place, to take it away, NOR is it my place to train her - I'm not going to do it. I don't believe she should have one, because, as I said at the outset, this woman has neither capability NOR the mindset to use a firearm properly in self-defense, and she also doesn't have the mindset to obtain the training to physically or mentally learn how to do so. I say this because I KNOW the woman - you don't. I KNOW what she WILL do, and what she WON'T do. Her problem isn't just frailty, it's also her refusal to help herself. Ever.
So crawl back under the bridge. You can make me out to be the bad guy all you want, or you can just f*** off.
<edit> And as for feeling bad about her situation, I long ago washed my hands of feeling responsible for the consequences of others' actions. We have done lots to try to help her, and we still include her in family gatherings, we go out of our way to pick her up, make special trips to come get her for various things, and in general take her out and get her some fresh air - since she refuses to do so herself - and she is PLENTY capable of it.
We used to pick up some milk or eggs for her here and there, but I've finally drawn the line at the long-ass shopping list she wants to give us, and wants to know when we're going to Sam's or Costco so I can load up a pallet of **** to bring to her. lol. Yeah, it's like that.
Is calling someone a moron, that you disagree with, within the rule set? I seem to remember getting a ban for changing a "p" to a "b" in a username.Funny stuff here. Even though I have several idiots on this place on /i, I am pretty sure I can figure out the s4|t they are saying from the responses I can see.
Get it straight, morons, I never said anywhere it should be illegal for her to have a gun. It's not my place, to take it away, NOR is it my place to train her - I'm not going to do it. I don't believe she should have one, because, as I said at the outset, this woman has neither capability NOR the mindset to use a firearm properly in self-defense, and she also doesn't have the mindset to obtain the training to physically or mentally learn how to do so. I say this because I KNOW the woman - you don't. I KNOW what she WILL do, and what she WON'T do. Her problem isn't just frailty, it's also her refusal to help herself. Ever.
So crawl back under the bridge. You can make me out to be the bad guy all you want, or you can just f*** off.
<edit> And as for feeling bad about her situation, I long ago washed my hands of feeling responsible for the consequences of others' actions. We have done lots to try to help her, and we still include her in family gatherings, we go out of our way to pick her up, make special trips to come get her for various things, and in general take her out and get her some fresh air - since she refuses to do so herself - and she is PLENTY capable of it.
We used to pick up some milk or eggs for her here and there, but I've finally drawn the line at the long-ass shopping list she wants to give us, and wants to know when we're going to Sam's or Costco so I can load up a pallet of **** to bring to her. lol. Yeah, it's like that.
This thread reminded me of an old family chestnut that I hadn't thought about for years. My great grandparents lived outside Ryan, OK on a small ranch/farm. Gramps was gone one night when Granny thought she saw someone looking in her bedroom window. She grabbed the sixshooter(no one remembers what it was or where it went), fired through the window...yep, killed their best bull.
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