Oregon ban on self-service gas stations voted out, or I learned something new today Thread

[Buck98]

I heard that on the radio yesterday.
I have been to Oregon a few times and it is odd that I was not allowed to pump my own gas.

My Dodge truck you must trickle the fuel into it as the tank is a bit up hill.

I had a work truck like that. You had to hold the pump handle upside down in the 10 or 2 o’clock position then squeeze the lever about halfway to fill the tank. It held 28 gallons and took forever to fill when it was empty.

 

[SoonerP226]

The worst part about this is a bunch of people are going to lose their jobs, and if you ever got gas in Oregon, its the often kind of people that can't do much besides pump gas.

Steve Lehto covered this a few days ago, and I think he said the impetus for getting the law passed was because they were having trouble getting people to work pumping gas.

 

[SoonerP226]

Here it is…

 

[HillsideDesolate]

Steve Lehto covered this a few days ago, and I think he said the impetus for getting the law passed was because they were having trouble getting people to work pumping gas.

Hard yo get a job when you are busy shooting fent and stealing

 

[SoonerP226]

I'd be more worried about the fact Oklahoma is piloting this program , people need to call their legislators and tell them they do not support a by the mile tax

I’m all for a per-mile use tax for those freeloading electrics. We have to pay for the roads somehow, and they’re not paying the gas taxes that are supposed to cover that cost. I’m not at all interested in paying more other taxes to subsidize their use.

 

[WoodsCraft]

I’m all for a per-mile use tax for those freeloading electrics. We have to pay for the roads somehow, and they’re not paying the gas taxes that are supposed to cover that cost. I’m not at all interested in paying more other taxes to subsidize their use.

I am all for not being tracked every mile that I travel, rest assured the data collected which will accurately bill you can be used to monitor you every where you go. Anyone who believes these people that the data can be anonymized in such a way you'll be billed and yet they'll not know your every movement is obtuse .

The fact of the matter is the government created their own funding problems here when they pushed for EV's and higher fuel efficiency standards and ended up getting what they wanted now they need to learn to live in those constraints not come and say oh we're getting less money because we forced the standards that created this funding problem.

 

[SoonerP226]

I am all for not being tracked every mile that I travel,

Then don’t buy an electric car. I’m not in favor of tracking the people who are actually paying for the maintenance of the roads, just the freeloaders.

 

[WoodsCraft]

Then don’t buy an electric car. I’m not in favor of tracking the people who are actually paying for the maintenance of the roads, just the freeloaders.

Yeah I don't think you understand how this will work, when they finally implement this it will be for everyone . I am not interested in a government issues appliance being plugged in my car to transmit my mileage back to ODOT . Its not going to just be for Tesla owners


Clearly one of us is more interested in liberty and privacy than the other . FWIW I don't electric cars

 

[SoonerP226]

Yeah I don't think you understand how this will work, when they finally implement this it will be for everyone . I am not interested in a government issues appliance being plugged in my car to transmit my mileage back to ODOT . Its not going to just be for Tesla owners


Clearly one of us is more interested in liberty and privacy than the other . FWIW I don't electric cars

You and I are not talking about the same things, so I’ll just leave it at that.

 

[WoodsCraft]

You and I are not talking about the same things, so I’ll just leave it at that

Oh we are , but you're fixated on gotta pay for the roads and I am fixated on we do not have to pay for the roads at the expense of privacy.

Here is a snip from a KUOW story in Washington , and they're piloting a system similar to OReGO

Concern about Big Brother monitoring where you drive could resurface when the Washington House Transportation Committee resumes consideration of Fey's bill on Thursday afternoon. Fey's proposal specified that the state Department of Licensing must strictly protect vehicle location information and cannot disclose it to law enforcement without a court order.

As I said earlier you can't collect just the milage information without collecting other GIS data. Let that soak in