My primary care doc is great 70% of the time when I see him I’ll tell him what I think is wrong and what I think I need. Most of time he’ll say I’m right and write me the script. If I’m wrong he’ll tell me what I missed. Thankful for a doc that doesn’t think his patients are idiots.
My primary care doc is great 70% of the time when I see him I’ll tell him what I think is wrong and what I think I need. Most of time he’ll say I’m right and write me the script. If I’m wrong he’ll tell me what I missed. Thankful for a doc that doesn’t think his patients are idiots.
Dr.s for the most part are Quacks! Took my dad wed. to the doctor.
Did he ask if my dad wanted a covid shot ? No!
Did he try to talk him into one? No!
Did he examine his swollen diabetes feet? No!
Most of the time spent was trying to get my dad interested in anti-depressants which are totally un-needed and un-wanted.
Must be a new pill that's giving good kickbacks this month.
Did he ask if my dad wanted a covid shot ? No!
Did he try to talk him into one? No!
Did he examine his swollen diabetes feet? No!
Most of the time spent was trying to get my dad interested in anti-depressants which are totally un-needed and un-wanted.
Must be a new pill that's giving good kickbacks this month.
The way my Doctor explained clinical trials to me is that for lawsuit purposes, every patient in those trials must submit to medical exams on a regular basis to monitor their health and if the medications or placebo's are creating a difference in the patients health as a simple explanation.
If a patient during those trials came up with cancer of the gonads, that will be listed as a potential side effect. It doesn't matter that there have been little to no research relating cancer of the gonads to a trial vaccine for gobbygook, it will be listed as a side effect to prevent some legal person getting involved.
Dale, there is a whole wall of this stuff at drug stores. Most of these kinds of supplements carry the GRAS rating from the FDA which means "Generally recognized as safe". As was previously mentioned, Tylenol and things like it are more toxic to the liver than most natural products.
And the idea that A. you would think that I would think pictures of fruits on the box means its safe is insulting, and B. the idea that you didn't take the time to notice that the pictures of fruits were the FLAVOR of the product and nothing to do with the ingredients is concerning and C. the fact that when people question the V-word side effects you are quick to defend and then when it suits you to discredit other things you yourself tout the side effects.
I would point out in response to your side effects concern that this is a homeopathic medicine and many people in your camp think it is nothing but sugar pills...But definitely, not full-strength herbals so that is why homeopathy is considered one of the safer "alternative medicines", because it uses such minute amounts of the ingredients that it is a low risk of problems compared to say taking Kava Kava or some other liver-pickling herb.
They make different brands and not all of them have fruits on the box...but if your mom ever told you to gargle with warm salt water for a sore throat, it may have helped, but definitely didn't hurt. If someone can get a cheap, OTC product from CVS or walmart that might reduce the severity of a cold or flu if taken as directed, I just don't see how you would argue against it??? You don't have to go to your doctor to know how to take Advil. There is almost somethign sinsiter about all this attempt to suppress people from having ANY alternatives to stay healthy...There is no rule that if a person who's had the V-word gets sick that they can't do other things to try and mitigate their symptoms or risks. If I had a flu shot and got the flu anyway, you can bet I'd be willing to take this stuff, or Advil, or warm salt water or chicken soup if I thought it could help.
You people can support the V-word and still be open to other things, if your agenda truly is for people to thrive. Pfizer is working on a protease inhibiter right now to treat the virus and that is one of the many mechanisms of action of the "horse paste" drug. Why would they be doing that if there was no other solution than booster shots the rest of your life?
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It bears further investigation. You could be on to something.
Me, because it’s my body, and I have to live with the risks or side effects.
Dale, there are corporations making this stuff and selling it at mainstream stores with health CLAIMS ON THE BOX. The FDA doesn't allow people to make claims about products unless there is some clinical evidence behind the claim.
If this Umcka or Zicam, or Vicks First Defense, etc...can reduce the severity of the common cold caused by a corona virus, then why would you disparage this? I am just trying to think outside the box on how to keep a viral illness from progressing. You better believe I've already given a box of the cold & flu version to the elderly people in my life. It definitely isn't going to hurt them whether it works or not. They also make a kids formula...probably a lot safer than Tamiflu.
I think I am onto something; it would be interesting to know what outcomes a controlled study would show verses placebo. They already showed and claim benefits for other common cold viruses.
My plan is to hit the regular formula combined with other co-factors like zinc & vitamin C, etc. at the onset of any new viral symptoms (tickle in throat, sneeze, etc.) and then move to the multi-symptom formula if the crud progresses to try and reduce the severity. It definitely won't hurt anything, but you and others can take this idea and make your own decision. This could also be used by inoculated people too Dale...maybe they just get a regular cold or flu and want to not be sick for a week.
Shooter - my concern in reading your OP was that you were advocating it as a cure or preventative for corona virus infections (including COVID). I am not opposed to judicious "self-medication" using FDA approved over-the-counter products. Your title was, "Could Stopping Viruses Really Be This Simple?"
As an aside, unfortunately research is very expensive in terms of limited money and researcher time. It is best for the most knowledgeable subject matter specialists to choose the most promising research topics. I know enough to know that I am not qualified to make such recommendations. "Peoples' Choice" research topic selection is definitely not the way to go.
Thanks for your patience and civility in this discussion.
As an aside, unfortunately research is very expensive in terms of limited money and researcher time. It is best for the most knowledgeable subject matter specialists to choose the most promising research topics. I know enough to know that I am not qualified to make such recommendations. "Peoples' Choice" research topic selection is definitely not the way to go.
Thanks for your patience and civility in this discussion.
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