For there beiong no WMD

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sh00ter

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As cold-hearted murdering s.o.b.s go, Saddam wasn't as bad as some in the area. I'm not saying he was a good guy, but he was better than the iceholes. Of course, you could say the same about the Shah of Iran back in the day also. Look how well that turned out.

The Shah was our boy...he kept the jihadis poor and oppressed and it worked well for us...
 

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Wonder what the world today would look like if we'd listened to Jefferson?

"I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection
with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am
not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of
Europe, entering that field of slaughter to preserve their
balance, or joining in the confederacy of Kings to war against
the principles of liberty." --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry,
1799.

"We wish not to meddle with the internal affairs of any country,
nor with the general affairs of Europe." --Thomas Jefferson to
C. W. F. Dumas, 1793.

"Nothing is so important as that America shall separate herself
from the systems of Europe, and establish one of her own. Our
circumstances, our pursuits, our interests, are distinct. The
principles of our policy should be so also. All entanglements
with that quarter of the globe should be avoided if we mean that
peace and justice shall be the polar stars of the American
societies." --Thomas Jefferson to J. Correa de Serra, 1820.

"The interests of a nation, when well understood, will be found to
coincide with their moral duties. Among these it is an important
one to cultivate habits of peace and friendship with our neighbors.
To do this we should make provisions for rendering the justice we
must sometimes require from them. I recommend, therefore, to
your consideration whether the laws of the Union should not be
extended to restrain our citizens from committing acts of violence
within the territories of other nations, which would be punished
were they committed within our own." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft,
Presidential Message, 1792.

"No one nation has a right to sit in judgment over another."
--Thomas Jefferson: Opinion, 1793.

"We are firmly convinced, and we act on that conviction, that
with nations, as with individuals, our interests soundly
calculated, will ever be found inseparable from our moral duties;
and history bears witness to the fact, that a just nation is
taken on its word, when recourse is had to armaments and wars to
bridle others." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805.
 

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See we played Iraq totally wrong. We should have went ahead and leveled Afghanistan and left when the mission was over. Then let Saddam use his WMDs on his neighbors and watched the middle east destroy itself. Some problems are better left to solve themselves!
 

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See we played Iraq totally wrong. We should have went ahead and leveled Afghanistan and left when the mission was over. Then let Saddam use his WMDs on his neighbors and watched the middle east destroy itself. Some problems are better left to solve themselves!

If we had told Saddam: "hey saddam, take over the mid-east and suppress the radicals and sell us cheap oil and we will leave u alone" he would have said "okay" :)
 

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And on to the next show: Iran.

For the record, I believe that any country in the ME that doesn't allow for UN arms inspectors to view ALL of their nuclear facilities should be nuked into a vast glass wasteland.

Or, that we leave every country over there completely alone, and keep our troops and our money at home.

Either choice, we treat them all the same. Fair enough?
 

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You can bet your ass they have, to see how badly they were exposed.
Have you read it? Do so, I have a copy you can borrow.

Thinking of that, Jesse Trentadue was going to court to get the FBI to release their findings on the death of his brother at the detention center in OKC. His brother was killed because he looked like John Doe #2. Did Trentadue ever get all the info from the feds? And, with that in mind, why do you suppose the FBI fought back so hard for so long on that case? Do you suppose that they might have been hiding information?

Kind of like this:

Trial Over Oklahoma City Bombing Evidence Wraps Up
 

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