Sure, we live in a "post-racial" America

[RidgeHunter]

It's like the train wreck you can't look away from. Keep coming back to see the people making this more than it oughtta be.

Does it bother you? I mean, I live my whole day trying to make sure RH isn't getting bothered or annoyed...

<edit> And since it's your claim, please show me someone defending "white supremacy". Not white advancement.... supremacy. Show me where someone claimed white people were better than other people, in this thread.

No thanks.

 

[tRidiot]

No thanks.

I didn't think so.

 

[kd5rjz]

Speaking of that area, I noticed the guy on AR23 just south of the MO border took down his anti-Obama yard display. It was always interesting to see what he'd have spray painted on old cars to warn us of the impending doom. The Ozarks may be a bit racist, but I do see more and more black families on Table Rock and Beaver lake each year. I suspect the area may be growing up, though slowly.

Now, go down to southern Arkansas to El Dorado if you want a new perspective on what racism is. I've never been treated so horribly for being white.

 

[kd5rjz]

I'm not trying to derail this thread, I pretty much feel about the same as Ridge. To me racism is on par with being a homophob. OSA isn't gonna allow obvious racism or let anyone bust loose with using the "N" word. But jeez we can queer bash, call them fags or anything else derogatory.

It's about the same as being a racist. But what do we do? Forums evolve. OSA is/has become more politically correct. I predict it won't be long before the gay bashing goes away. Then the same argument could be made. Instead of talking about closet racism, we'll talk bout closet gay bashing.

Hell someday it might be politically correct to not bash the Liberals or ultra Right wingers. I mean your either a lefty or right on OSA.
This conversation is good for us. It's what makes OSA my favorite website.

I guess I just don't understand why "super-straight conservative people" care so much about what gay people can or can not do.

I really just assume anybody that is homophobic or anti-gay-rights is just deeply closeted.

 

[dennishoddy]

As someone of East Asian descent, I could complain about how hard it was to grow up as the only Asian kid school and my neighborhood in Lawton Oklahoma. The daily "ching chong" and "me Chinese... pee pee in your coke" type jokes. I didn't have a "community" of other Asians to find refuge in. I was alone and I got **** on by both the white and black kids. I learned really quick how to survive and fight and yeah I got my butt kicked sometimes, but I also whooped a lot of ass too. Doesn't hurt that I've always been physically taller than most people my whole life.

I've had teachers blatantly lie to the principal and said I was using Kung fu on another student and got the paddle to the rear end for sitting in class and doing nothing all because she thought I was Japanese. Yes... Seriously. The number of parents who refused their kids to be friends with a "chink" or in several cases "that jap" and blamed a little American boy who happened to have Korean American parents for atrocities that happened in Pearl Harbor during WWII. All sorts of fail there.... Sheesh.

I've had (and to this day still experience) parents disapprove of their daughters dating me and I'm almost 34 yrs old now because of a stereotype that I would be short tempered and abusive or culturally incompatible with their family even though I've lived in Oklahoma my 33 out of 34 years alive as a person.

I know that if I wasn't "Asian" I could have it easier in the corporate world. I wouldn't have had to go out of my way to act more aggressive and confident to break the meek, mild mannered Asian cubical robot stereotype when I was just a grunt. I wouldn't have had to go out of my way to be heart warming and sensitive to break the stereotype of the abusive hot-headed Asian slavedriver stereotype when I became a manager. And now that I'm a consultant and professional who sometimes deal with CEO's in the Midwest and southwest, I have to go out of my way to prove I'm "American" enough. The fact that I'm 6 feet tall and have an Okie accent works to my advantage.

My father served in the us army in the late 70's and 80's after doing 2 tours of Vietnam with the ROK (South Korean) army. Anything I would have to complain about pales in comparison to what my Dad experienced being an Asian guy in Oklahoma in the 70's. things that included neighbors threatening to gangrape my mother in front of him while they forced him to watch and then burn hiss "gook" baby before killing him. They actually did try to make good on that and tried to break into the trailer house while my mom was inside. My Dad showed up in time with 4 other artillery guys from his unit just in time. He's had Cameron University students spit in his face and threaten him while he was a janitor there in the early 80's. His long time best friend was actually his biggest source of grief at one point simply because he thought my dad was Japanese.

I don't complain because my dad never complained. He worked his ass off for the very little he earned made sure that I was raised as an "American boy" and was willing to put a boot in anyone's ass who thought otherwise. Served in the US Army because he felt obligated to give something back to the country that allowed him a new life.

The only reason why I even bothered to type that short history of experience about myself is because everyone, no matter the race or gender has similar stories like mine and my father's. I don't complain because I know people who have had it worse. You don't have to be a "non-white" to experience similar hardships and hurt. Ask any white kid who grows up in a black ghetto their experiences and I promise you their story will be similar to mine. Hell, I couldn't imagine being a homosexual in a small town in Oklahoma and my heart goes out to those kids who are in that situation.

I conclude with this. Whites, stop apologizing for crap your ancestors may or may not have done a generation or more ago. You didn't do this so just stop already. Minorities, stop using "racism" as an excuse for your own failures and inadequacies. If you did experience real setbacks due to racism or "white privilege," stop crying and move on. Affirmative action goes both ways and now it is being used in colleges to deny Asian applicants for white applicants. My opinion is that AA is no longer needed, but I'm just a dumb designer.

People stop being so sensitive and stop and realize that sometimes things done out of ignorance does not mean it was done out of hate. This last bit is key and applies to everyone in all groups. If anything, most of the racial issues in American comes to one group just not having any empathy due to lack of context and one group assuming the worse and malicious intent from the other.

Also 1488. Ok just kidding. Lol. Sorry, to all the stormfront kiddies.

Well said..

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

Well said..

Exactly. We all have our battles. Each of us get to choose success or failure. Failure is the easy choice, it requires little effort and there is always someone or some circumstance to blame.

 

[cjjtulsa]

Oklahoma hate groups

Let me guess......courtesy of the SPLC?

 

[TedKennedy]

Let me guess......courtesy of the SPLC?

The Appleseed guys are listed as a potential threat by the SPLC. Morris Dees is the MAN!

 

[cjjtulsa]

"Anti-racist" was all it took for me to know that was a KKK billboard.

Whether that's a "Klan" slogan or not, I don't see anything offensive about the billboard. Anecdotal evidence shows me that typically things that are considered "anti-racist" are, in fact, anti-white, or at least intended to single out or shame whites in one way or another.

 

[Spec ops Grunt]

People that defend white supremacist idealogy without taking the risk/shunning of being an out and proud white supremacist are worse than KKK members to me.

KKK members are generally disliked now. Beer gutted suburbanites that spew racist idealogy online/with their friends are liked because they keep their racism mostly in the closet. Glad we have so many here.

Woah now don't lump beer guts in with racism. : D