Saw a different no-gun sign this morning....

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Ok anybody ever notice going into post office the sign saying "No Concealed Firearms" ? Guess you could open carry??

That's Federal property, so, no.

Can't even have it in your vehicle, and that is Federal law, to my understanding. So I always park either on the street or in the parking lot next door to the Post Office.
 

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Wiley Post is not federalized, so TSA rules don't apply. The only thing TSA regulates at general aviation airports are Part 135 charters over 12,500 lbs, and Initial, Instrument and Multi-Engine Land flight training.

I don't believe the airport general ticketing area are off-limits, are they? Like in Tulsa, you can carry until you get to the security checkpoints? So you can carry to see people off at ticketing up to security, or in the baggage claim to pick people up, right? Correct me if I am wrong...
 

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I don't believe the airport general ticketing area are off-limits, are they? Like in Tulsa, you can carry until you get to the security checkpoints? So you can carry to see people off at ticketing up to security, or in the baggage claim to pick people up, right? Correct me if I am wrong...

I'm also curious the answer to this. The airport is owned by the city, but operated by the Tulsa Airport Authority and/or Tulsa Airports Improvement Trust (a "component unit" of the City), who then sublease it out to all the various tenants. Since it's gov-owned, I would be led to believe the entire building is then off-limits for carry, given 21 § 1277 A 1. But I'll await a more informed opinion.
 

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I'm also curious the answer to this. The airport is owned by the city, but operated by the Tulsa Airport Authority and/or Tulsa Airports Improvement Trust (a "component unit" of the City), who then sublease it out to all the various tenants. Since it's gov-owned, I would be led to believe the entire building is then off-limits for carry, given 21 § 1277 A 1. But I'll await a more informed opinion.

I don't believe the airport general ticketing area are off-limits, are they? Like in Tulsa, you can carry until you get to the security checkpoints? So you can carry to see people off at ticketing up to security, or in the baggage claim to pick people up, right? Correct me if I am wrong...

The Tulsa Airports Improvement Trust is now a completely separate operational entity from the City of Tulsa. The Tulsa International Airport (TUL) terminal is currently posted with "gunbuster" signs on the public side (adjacent to the curb). To date I am unaware of any citations being issued for the state charge unlawful carry on the public side (land side in airport-speak). There have been numerous citations issued on the air side, which is what happens when someone carries a firearm into the security checkpoint.

I do not know if TAIT will enforce those gunbuster signs on the public side and since no citations have been issued there, I'm unaware of any state preemption test cases on it. Due to the sensitive nature of my position there, I have a strictly "no comment" policy on the legality of posting the public side of the TUL terminal.

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The Tulsa Airports Improvement Trust is now a completely separate operational entity from the City of Tulsa. The Tulsa International Airport (TUL) terminal is currently posted with "gunbuster" signs on the public side (adjacent to the curb). To date I am unaware of any citations being issued for the state charge unlawful carry on the public side (land side in airport-speak). There have been numerous citations issued on the air side, which is what happens when someone carries a firearm into the security checkpoint.

I do not know if TAIT will enforce those gunbuster signs on the public side and since no citations have been issued there, I'm unaware of any state preemption test cases on it. Due to the sensitive nature of my position there, I have a strictly "no comment" policy on the legality of posting the public side of the TUL terminal.

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Understood, and I was hoping you would chime in. Essentially, it's not illegal, it sounds like - so 'concealed is concealed'. Just don't try to go through security with a gun, or any ammo. I once had a .22 round in my backpack I found as I was cleaning it out to pack for a trip - that coulda gotten 'interesting' at the security checkpoint had I not found it in advance.
 

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Understood, and I was hoping you would chime in. Essentially, it's not illegal, it sounds like - so 'concealed is concealed'. Just don't try to go through security with a gun, or any ammo. I once had a .22 round in my backpack I found as I was cleaning it out to pack for a trip - that coulda gotten 'interesting' at the security checkpoint had I not found it in advance.

LOL, I feel you. Honestly, a round or two isn't a big deal. We remember that we're in Oklahoma after all. ;)
 

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Understood, and I was hoping you would chime in. Essentially, it's not illegal, it sounds like - so 'concealed is concealed'. Just don't try to go through security with a gun, or any ammo. I once had a .22 round in my backpack I found as I was cleaning it out to pack for a trip - that coulda gotten 'interesting' at the security checkpoint had I not found it in advance.

LOL, I feel you. Honestly, a round or two isn't a big deal. We remember that we're in Oklahoma after all. ;)

Wife was flying back to Oklahoma from Oregon to help take care of our youngest son after a surgery. She was in the TSA area of Medford, Oregon's terminal for some time. I watched as they examined her purse 3 or 4 times and sent it through the x-ray (or whatever) each time. Finally, she opened up every zipper, held it upside-down and started shaking it. The next thing I see is the TSA agent walking over to where I am standing. He hands me her small pocket knife that "she used" to always keep in her purse.

They let her continue on to Oklahoma.
 

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