Dealing with Mental Health

[donner]

That's the thing on flags. The judge will basically rubber stamp almost all requests. They would fear denying a red flag claim and being wrong more than confiscating the guns and being wrong.

That certainly is a broad generalization, but perhaps they would go that route.

But again, if that is the case then it seems like discussing a judge's willingness to blindly accept things is more the problem than their ability to order a psych evaluation (and all the things that go along with it).

 

[trekrok]

That certainly is a broad generalization, but perhaps they would go that route.

But again, if that is the case then it seems like discussing a judge's willingness to blindly accept things is more the problem than their ability to order a psych evaluation (and all the things that go along with it).

Think about it from their seat. Deny the request and perp goes and shoot up a school. Thats bad. Wrongly approve the confiscation and you have one irate citizen that might or might not have the wherewithal to make a legal stink. And of course the stink won't get on the judge anyway.

 

[C_Hallbert]

Regarding mental health….

I live on a city lot, my neighbor has been diagnosed bi-polar and maybe something else to go with it, I don’t know. The bi-polar was diagnosed around 15 years ago, he is now in his early 70s and lives alone, no family close by. He’s been on meds in the past and has decided not to take the proper dosage for whatever reason and that has resulted in many issues, some impacting those around him.

He used to have some firearms in the house until he decided to shoot off his shotgun in the back yard at 6:00 am. That resulted in a trip to jail, court and the VA for treatment. He shot off a pistol several years later in his front yard, so back to jail, court and the VA. He had his weapons taken away and as far as I know he does not have any more but there’s nothing keeping him from buying in a private sale. He has been prescribed medication he just doesn’t take what he should. He takes enough to be coherent when in front of a judge so he hasn’t been court directed to a facility, although he should be, as he can’t take care of himself.

He was arrested last year when a neighbor across the street saw him jerking off in his driveway. He was only gone a couple days for that, no idea what consequence there was for that, if much of anything. He regularly sets off his truck alarm throughout the night – 0300, 0500, 0600, just whenever and he’ll do the same with his house alarm. He also likes to play his truck radio very loud, either while sitting in it in the driveway or while he’s in the house. It’s loud enough we can hear it in our house even though his truck windows are rolled up. My wife called the police last week when he was doing that around midnight. They rolled by and talked to him then left.

He doesn’t take care of his house or yard and is a bit of a hoarder. His grass rarely gets cut and his house has a few paths through it amongst all the trash. He’s well known to code enforcement and the local PD but nothing changes. I used to help him from time to time when things went south but I’ve now refused. He knows what he’s doing and does stupid crap intentionally, just to do it since he knows there are little to no consequences. Several times he’s played an Air Force CD of just trumpet songs off his back patio loud enough to hear in our house. Usually he’s nowhere to be seen but will sometimes stand at attention while Taps is played.

This is only a quick overview of his crazy, it goes on every day. Wash/rinse/repeat. I have no problem saying a guy like this should never have access to a firearm and should be court ordered into an institution/facility that can ensure he’s taken care of but that won’t happen. He’ll never been able to legally buy a gun again but a private sale is another matter. It’ll take a huge screw up by him for anything to change, hopefully that doesn’t involve me or my family.

So, you’re saying that you live next to Joe Biden?

 

[Glocktogo]

That certainly is a broad generalization, but perhaps they would go that route.

But again, if that is the case then it seems like discussing a judge's willingness to blindly accept things is more the problem than their ability to order a psych evaluation (and all the things that go along with it).

That's how it's worked out in Florida for the most part. I haven't seen any studies in other states that have adopted RF laws. Yet.

https://constitutionstudy.com/2019/11/01/fl-red-flag-law-abused-i-warned-you/
https://www.amren.com/commentary/2022/06/red-flagging-red-flag-law-abuse/
https://thefirearmfirm.com/floridas-red-flag-law-is-discriminatory-and-is-being-abused/

 

[TinkerTanker]

I probably already said somewhere in this thread, but three things to be avoided at all costs are:
1. Therapists
2. Counselors
3. Job Surveys

You'll get put on a list every time, especially if you don't toe the DEI line.

Disclaimer: If you're actually nuts and require meds to quiet the voices please see all three.