I'm fine with upping it to 21 across the board with the exception of driving age. When I had to drive into work most days I was more concerned with their parents and how they were texting and driving.
Here we go again, another school shooting. This time in Texas
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And this provides a glimpse at how statistics can be managed to create the appearance of effectiveness.
Society: Too many teenagers are dying in car wrecks.
Government: Change legal driving age to 20.
Outcome: Far fewer teenagers dying in car wrecks, but the shift of those numbers to the 20-29 demographic get swept under the rug.
A similar thing happens when other things are banned. Suddenly VERY few people are getting shot every year, but the spike to stabbings, assault, etc. gets swept under the rug.
Humans are a species capable of extreme violence for an unfathomable number of reasons, some more justified than others. We also were gifted with a knack for ingenuity. Take away one tool and a determined person will find another tool or three to fill the void.
The part I still cannot wrap my head around is how LE was pursuing ANYONE that close to a school and the school wasnt notified and placed under full lockdown. I understand the helplessness when a student brings a weapon to a school and causes mass harm, but this wasnt that scenario at all. This was a school making itself available as shelter to someone being actively pursued by LEO. Cattle do a better job of protecting calves when a threat is in the area than we managed to do with our children in that school. Now, all of the attention is being steered to the damn rifle and there will be no real assessments of how to keep this from happening again.
People are seriously using that he was being chased by police as an argument AGAINST armed school security . . . . saying if he can get away from police what good would armed school security do. It's really unbelievable how they're twisting this horrible situation.
I think part of the answer is right here.
No need for laws, just good people in their life that will notice their mental state and help them get treatment. Maybe the family will make sure the guns are locked up (tho they could get them somewhere else).
We need to improve our mental health systems so people can more easily get professional help.
It looks like the latest shooter didn't have good people close to him to help him. Now we're back to the argument for strong, mature, two parent homes with good role models.
That's going to be the hardest part.
Not shocked. Not even a little bit surprised.
A friend of mine checked his teenage daughter into St. Anthony's for an evaluation. She was 18. He left her, and they said they would take care of her and let him know. She was clearly in distress and in need of help. They released her without telling him, cause she was an adult and all that, and she didn't wanna stay. She walked to her Aunt's house up off 23'rd and brushed her teeth with a 12 ga.
It ruined him. He was a recovering alcoholic and he couldn't stand it, so he drank. Then came the loritabs, by the handful, purchased legally at first then illegally. He lost his business, his family, and then he lost his life. He didn't really commit suicide, at least not all at once. It was slow. It was painful to watch. I can't imagine what it was to live it, except he probably wasn't cognizant. He died alone. He self medicated himself to death. Her mental illness killed him just like it killed her.
We need beds. We need people to take care of these people. As it is, they're just disposable humans. History will look on us unkindly for how we have treated the most vulnerable among us.
Yeah, Ive stopped watching news because my nerves cant take it anymore. I do more work on the laptop in another room while my wife catches up on whats happening.
My counterargument would be if your security isnt at least as competent as LE, it doesnt do any good for them to be armed either. It is a crying shame that a lot of our non-specialized LEOs in the country represent the minimum proficiency with firearms. I have been saying for a long time that poor decisions made under pressure that result in the death of someone being taken into custody is quite often an indicator of a lack of training. So many of these departments spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for armored personnel carriers, Humvees, and other military level equipment, but couldnt be bothered to send their officers to some real training on a regular basis. Firearm proficiency and grappling type fighting skills should be for every officer, not just the ones actually interested in excelling at their job and going home safe and healthy.
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